Guest audiohavoc Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Hello, This may seem like an odd request, but I am looking for approach charts for OTBH (Al Udeid) if possible. I am doing a simulated flight from ETAR to OTBH, and I typically get my charts from Navigraph, but they only have charts for OTBD. Does anyone know of any online alternatives to Jeppesen? I don't mind payware if it is reasonably priced. Thank you, Audiohavoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 How bout no Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I think you're barking up the wrong tree, pal. If you can't get them through public sources, don't expect anyone here to hand them out either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Sounds like a great question for your squadron's stan/eval shop...at least, that's who's in charge of the flight pubs where I'm from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) Put in a PM to DozerF22 Edited October 21, 2009 by Bishop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I don't think he has a stan/eval shop. From the Navigraph website: Company Presentation The aim for Navigraph is to provide the international flight simulation community with tools and software like those available to the aviation industry. I didn't get the impression that he works for Navigraph...in any case, he's probably SOL without a .mil account if that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Dude, just file to OTBD then VFR to OTBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I know of a couple guys who make some bank selling outdated Jepp changes from our airline to MS flight sim folks. Wow. So when we update our pubs here in a bit, I can just sell the old pubs on ebay. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Hello, This may seem like an odd request, but I am looking for approach charts for OTBH (Al Udeid) if possible. I am doing a simulated flight from ETAR to OTBH, and I typically get my charts from Navigraph, but they only have charts for OTBD. Does anyone know of any online alternatives to Jeppesen? I don't mind payware if it is reasonably priced. Thank you, Audiohavoc Dude, If you want to simulate going to OTBH, buy yourself a reflective belt and some croc sandals, read and then pay someone a healthy salary with benefits to bitch you out about how you wear said reflective belt and sandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hueypilot812 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 OTBH approaches are DoD approaches, and as such are released through NGA. If you have a .mil email account you can get electronic access through the NGA portal. If not, you're probably SOL. If Jeppesen makes copies of OTBH approaches, they probably wouldn't just give you some (or sell you some). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepGuyC17 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Honestly dude, you're not missing much. Think of every other ILS you've ever flown, it's pretty much the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Honestly dude, you're not missing much. Think of every other ILS you've ever flown, it's pretty much the same. If you really want an accurate simulation, be sure to give yourself short vectors onto final as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepGuyC17 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 If you really want an accurate simulation, be sure to give yourself short vectors onto final as well. "High speed approved" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 If you really want an accurate simulation, be sure to give yourself short vectors onto final as well. don't forget the ever popular descent from 11,000 to 2000 at 18 DME to join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Simulated flight from ETAR to OTBH? Sounds like a vUSAF mission to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 You definitely don't want an approach to OTBH, you want the departure. Trust me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Simulated flight from ETAR to OTBH? Sounds like a vUSAF mission to me. No, I think it is a simulated virtual flight. They don't want to waste vUSAF server time training for actual simulated missions, so they are simulating them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 No, I think it is a simulated virtual flight. They don't want to waste vUSAF server time training for actual simulated missions, so they are simulating them instead. Now if only we could do PME the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 "High speed approved" Maybe that works for you C-17 guys..."10 board, 150...9 board, 20". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Maybe that works for you C-17 guys..."10 board, 150...9 board, 20". He was referring to High Speed below 10,000 ft. Can 130s even exceed 250 kts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepGuyC17 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 The only fun approach at the Deid is the mid-field visual anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 He was referring to High Speed below 10,000 ft. Can 130s even exceed 250 kts? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POKESC17 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 The only fun approach at the Deid is the mid-field visual anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amcflyboy Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 He was referring to High Speed below 10,000 ft. Can 130s even exceed 250 kts? Yup, got it up to 270 while doing a Pen-D to Kandahar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest audiohavoc Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 I apologize if I was wrong being a civilian and asking for approach charts to a military base. The purpose was for a simulated cargo flight from ETAR to OTBH for Globe Cargo. I appreciate the input, and I thank all of you who serve. Thank You, Audiohavoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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