March 21, 200916 yr Nope. As I recall, a certain former CSAF who was a former Thunderbird loved rocking out the V-neck so much that he made everyone were them. They should allow crew necks along with V-necks. We mix and match all of our other uniforms, why not the Blues uniform...I laugh whenever I see a picture of some major event on base and there are 3 or more combinations of uniforms.
March 21, 200916 yr Blues would look so much better if everyone wore crew neck t-shirts. This seems like the most obvious thing to change, but it never gets changed! Has the V-neck always been USAF policy? The way I've always heard it was that some general's wife thought it looked like "their underwear was sticking out", so the general in charge of the uniform board (why do we have one of these per year?) put it in. I've seen the reports after the uniform boards and, it seems, every year the crew neck white T-shirt is brought up and every year it is shot down because "it's tradition". When will the REMFs get a clue? Edited March 21, 200916 yr by BQZip01
March 22, 200916 yr I know you're technically allowed to wear black cowboy boots with your blues Really, it that you are allowed to wear any black boot with your blues...eg, if you wanted to, you can wear your black flight boots, or really any black leather shoe/boot. I used to wear my high-tech boots with my blues all the time...but it made sense to the job at hand. I also used to do the cowboy style "work boot"...but I wore those bad boys out long ago and never replaced them. Blues would look so much better if everyone wore crew neck t-shirts. This seems like the most obvious thing to change, but it never gets changed! Has the V-neck always been USAF policy? Crew necks were required for at least the first few years of my career...I forget when it changed.
March 22, 200916 yr I know you're technically allowed to wear black cowboy boots with your blues... Done. I now have a new footwear of choice.
March 22, 200916 yr Done. I now have a new footwear of choice. Cowboy boots combined with the cardigan would be killer!
March 22, 200916 yr The way I've always heard it was that some general's wife thought it looked like "their underwear was sticking out", so the general in charge of the uniform board (why do we have one of these per year?) put it in. I've seen the reports after the uniform boards and, it seems, every year the crew neck white T-shirt is brought up and every year it is shot down because "it's tradition". When will the REMFs get a clue? So we can change the service dress every few years, but getting a crew neck t-shirt ruins our "heritage"? And one more, .
March 22, 200916 yr I've seen the reports after the uniform boards and, it seems, every year the crew neck white T-shirt is brought up and every year it is shot down because "it's tradition". When will the REMFs get a clue? The v-neck is NOT tradition. When I was in AFROTC back in 1991, we wore crew neck t-shirts. It was that aforementioned CSAF that changed it, along with implementing the new navy-style sleeve rank, etc.
March 22, 200916 yr The v-neck is NOT tradition. When I was in AFROTC back in 1991, we wore crew neck t-shirts. It was that aforementioned CSAF that changed it, along with implementing the new navy-style sleeve rank, etc. I figured the first thing we would do is get rid of every change HE made that we could.
March 22, 200916 yr I remember that back prior to HIM, the service dress was the original blue one that was very similar to the Army's green one. After that, we went with the airline-style navy-rank ugly one...then in a modest switch back, we ditched the rank, but kept the jacket (sans name tag)...
March 23, 200916 yr Folks wear boots with blues because boots are required to ride a motorcycle on base. I remember the days when crewnecks were allowed. IMO, looks better than the v neck. There's always the guy who looks like he's trying to smuggle Alf in his shirt, cover your disco-chest-muff with a crewneck.
March 23, 200916 yr as if wearing blues on Monday doesn't suck enough, its this kind of bullshit that irritates me, long sleeve ONLY during winter, short sleeve ONLY during summer.
March 23, 200916 yr Im all for picking your battles... but seriously, whats gonna happen if you wear short sleeves in the winter? Are you in uniform? Yup. Is it in violation of AFI 36-xxx Nope. But Im sure the clerks will have a field day if you dont have your tie on because its the wings policy that the chief most likely bugged the WG/CC to implement for the last 3 months... Im at a northern tier base and they dont regulate like this (yet). And if they did, well looks like Monday is my fly day! Im not saying anything, Im just saying. Stupid policies get retained because no one has the guts to tell the emporer hes naked... Chuck Edited April 7, 20241 yr by Chuck17
March 23, 200916 yr as if wearing blues on Monday doesn't suck enough, its this kind of bullshit that irritates me, long sleeve ONLY during winter, short sleeve ONLY during summer. Hopefully you're not at a base where April 1 can be colder than March 31...We've got a wicked snowstorm here right now. On a related note, our WG/CC has been using that "Northern Tier Base" to let us wear utilities on Monday if it's projected to be cold. The Shirt's a little snappy about it...every Friday we get an email that says "the UOD will be such-n-such", and the Shirt always forwards it with the commentary "for those who obey the order".
March 23, 200916 yr every Friday we get an email that says "the UOD will be such-n-such", and the Shirt always forwards it with the commentary "for those who obey the order". Why the hell are these guys allowed to be such outright cock bags? Fucking ridiculous.
March 24, 200916 yr Hopefully you're not at a base where April 1 can be colder than March 31...We've got a wicked snowstorm here right now. On a related note, our WG/CC has been using that "Northern Tier Base" to let us wear utilities on Monday if it's projected to be cold. The Shirt's a little snappy about it...every Friday we get an email that says "the UOD will be such-n-such", and the Shirt always forwards it with the commentary "for those who obey the order". Sounds familiar. ...the uniform is: long sleeve blue shirts, a-jackets, parkas, hoods worn down... When they keep saying "back to basics," what they really mean is "back to basic." Apparently USAFA isn't the only leadership laboratory... FF
March 24, 200916 yr Sounds familiar. ...the uniform is: long sleeve blue shirts, a-jackets, parkas, hoods worn down... When they keep saying "back to basics," what they really mean is "back to basic." Apparently USAFA isn't the only leadership laboratory... FF FF, You forgot "black leather gloves"...you might not get to eat breakfast at the chowhall if you show up without them.
March 24, 200916 yr Sounds familiar. ...the uniform is: long sleeve blue shirts, a-jackets, parkas, hoods worn down... When they keep saying "back to basics," what they really mean is "back to basic." Apparently USAFA isn't the only leadership laboratory... FF Of course, that works when your unit issues that stuff...or hell, your AAFES has parkas in stock. I got here in July, and I STILL don't have a winter weight Nomex flight jacket.
March 24, 200916 yr as if wearing blues on Monday doesn't suck enough, its this kind of bullshit that irritates me, long sleeve ONLY during winter, short sleeve ONLY during summer. Where are you located, roughly...STS? Love the avatar BTW. Like I've always said, can't go wrong with Mom jokes.
March 24, 200916 yr Where are you located, roughly...STS? Love the avatar BTW. Like I've always said, can't go wrong with Mom jokes. i'm at tinker and i don't need the wing queen telling me to wear a long sleeve shirt when its 30 degrees outside or a short sleeve shirt when its 80. i have enough common sense to dress appropriately, weather dependent. for christ's sake, why doesn't she just come over on sunday night and lay my clothes out on my bed for me like i do for my 9 yr old.
March 24, 200916 yr i'm at tinker and i don't need the wing queen telling me to wear a long sleeve shirt when its 30 degrees outside or a short sleeve shirt when its 80. i have enough common sense to dress appropriately, weather dependent. for christ's sake, why doesn't she just come over on sunday night and lay my clothes out on my bed for me like i do for my 9 yr old. Trust me dude, I hate her based solely on your post. I'm mean for fnck's sake. If it's not because she doesn't trust your ability to properly prepare for the elements, then why does she have such a boner for long sleeves and ties? On a related note, our WG/CC has been using that "Northern Tier Base" to let us wear utilities on Monday if it's projected to be cold. The Shirt's a little snappy about it...every Friday we get an email that says "the UOD will be such-n-such", and the Shirt always forwards it with the commentary "for those who obey the order". Your CC needs to verbally, or virtually, bitch-slap that shirt. I think it's great how he tries to piss on your cheerios just a little bit on Friday afternoon. Does he/she send out emails on the other days to inform you of the UOD? Edited March 24, 200916 yr by Spoo
March 25, 200916 yr create a fake email address at one of the free email sites and send her an email stating how you feel. She will not be able to track it down and maybe it may wake her a$$ up...or simply ask...why is everyone afraid to ask questions about things. Just because show has a higher rank does not mean you can not ask a question. Simply put ...a lot of people on base are confused with the policy of mandatory long sleeve/short sleeve during specific time and not being able to make the self judgment of whether they would be cold or hot....is there a saftey issue with the policy because a lot of people are talking about it and concerned....she may ust answer it and there you have it....maybe there is a reason...maybe not.... Let us know what she says.
March 25, 200916 yr create a fake email address at one of the free email sites and send her an email stating how you feel. She will not be able to track it down FALSE. There is NO anonymity on the inter-toobs She may not be able to track things down hereself, but if she can convince someone it's a threat you are F#CKED. Go ask a cop or OSI bubba how hard it is (STS) to find out who Jackass@gmail.com really is ... either through legal channels or 'unofficially' Sack-up and talk to her like a real officer/man/human being/etc.
March 25, 200916 yr FALSE. There is NO anonymity on the inter-toobs She may not be able to track things down hereself, but if she can convince someone it's a threat you are F#CKED. Really??? So if one were to walk into a public library, internet cafe, or hell, even a Best Buy, hop online, create a totally fake hotmail account, and send it on its way, that the cyberdroolers will track em down and bust down the dudes door as he's taking a crap? Ha. I'd love to see that one. For all you long-sleeve wearin' fools, go short-sleeve and keep the leather jacket on. Of course you still need the tie. Out Edited March 25, 200916 yr by disgruntledemployee
March 25, 200916 yr Trust me dude, I hate her based solely on your post. I'm mean for fnck's sake. If it's not because she doesn't trust your ability to properly prepare for the elements, then why does she have such a boner for long sleeves and ties? Your CC needs to verbally, or virtually, bitch-slap that shirt. I think it's great how he tries to piss on your cheerios just a little bit on Friday afternoon. Does he/she send out emails on the other days to inform you of the UOD? No. That one is always sent by an LT in the WG/CC's office, since many Monday's we're actually in flight suits due to the projected frigid temperatures. I don't mind the head's up (not that I've had to wear blues yet). It's the tone in the shirt's commentary when he forwards it to everyone that gets me.
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