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my only thing with the UPT ADSC is almost every pilot they said is eligible for the voluntary programs have a ADSC due to UPT...so that in turn would mean no one is eligible...
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The more I think about this, the more pissed off I get.
How do they justify not waiving a single ######ing day of a 3650 day commitment? Even if an individual has 6 months left on their UPT commitment, they have served 95% of what they signed for and yet people are getting Palace Chase approved with over 4 years left on their ADSC ()...WHAT WHAT THE ######?!?!?!
This just absolutely blows my mind even though I know it really shouldn't.
i'm 99.5% positive we will be denied....but lets wait and see what happens...
i'd have applied for PC instead of this if I weren't deployed.
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Yeah I just kept going back and hitting the button again until it went through
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you got through?
yep, got through at 12:04:10
the good news though is 11M and 11R are both eligible for the 1:1 Palace Chase now.
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well that was a nightmare getting that submitted....so many error messages....
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still applying. boss already has my cards as they told us to apply 3 days before the first window was set to open....so nothing to lose.
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From the new 13-65:
"ADSCs for Developmental Education... Undergraduate Pilot Training, and Advanced Pilot Training are not being waived." (note 4 on page 10)
We should have known it was too good to be true.
That is under the LADSC program, not VSP....
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there are also two different IRR agreements...I attached the one from 14-08
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The way I understand it, it isn't first come first serve but it is. Say they are trying to cut 12 guys, if more than 12 apply in Feb then that career field/year group will no longer be eligible to apply in March.
From everything I've been told, this is a simple year group + AFSC + ADSC look....no records are brought into it at all.
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Don't know if this helps anyone or just muddies the waters even further, but I just got this from my CC:
Source:
This is a shitshow!
I read that as as long as it's not submitted before the 6th you are fine.....you can create it before then and save it....just don't hit submit to your CC until the 6th...does that check with everyone?
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so how about we do 13-130 and both parts in the remarks?
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Just got off the phone with the Total Force Service Center and they said the application procedure under 14-08 was a misprint. They said to use the process in 13-130 and sent the following:
4. VSP Application Instructions: Access the vMPF via the AFPC Secure website. Select “Apply for Voluntary Separation”, and when prompted to “Select a Separation Provision”, select “SECAF Approved Early Separation Program”. Include “I am requesting to separate under the Voluntary Separation Pay (VSP) Program” in the remarks section. Refer to the PSD Guide for application procedures and instructions at https://mypers.af.mil , then under “FSS Resources” select “Program Guides” and then select “View PSD Guide Listing”, then “Separations”. The Officer Voluntary Separation application instructions are listed in Section E of the PSD Guide.
good to know. thanks.
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So I got this email today....clear as mud right? so my home station is saying use 14-08
Use the most current VSP (posted online) PSDM. If you are applying for VSP
then use the VSP PSDM current issue. That is the guidance I was given.
So get the most current copy of the VSP program file and fill it out that
way. Do not use any other documents unless it says in the VSP PSDM
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anyone think we will get an answer on 13-130 vs 14-08?
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4yrs, 5 mos (UPT)
gives hope to us all!
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so can we create the app again and just hit save prior to the 6th and submit on the 6th? or are they wanting the whole thing to not be created until the 6th?
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I assume this little bit of wild-hair decision making does not effect the tab patch you are allowed to wear, true?
It would be a bit ironic for the regulation to relax, then the policy to be restricted...
Bendy
I'd assume the only "authorized one" in our squadron is still allowed
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All true statements, but to be eligible for PC, you have to be 2/3 of the way through your "initial total ADSC" - I assume that means UPT ADSC.
Sample timeline:
Graduate May 2007
UPT start October 2007, graduate Nov 2008
In Nov 2014 they will still owe 4 years (not quite to 2/3rds yet).
And that's an aggressive timeline from commissioning to completing UPT right?
So I'm guessing that some 06 guys will be eligible for Palace Chase this year, some will not and most of the 07-08 crowd will not be.
No, it's your commissioning ADSC, i.e. ROTC, USAFA, OTS....
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True. That's what I was getting at since most if not all 05-08 yr group will have more than 2 yrs ADSC left which I don't think they are waiving for ongoing palace chase.
you can still palace chase at the 3:1 rate with a max of a 6 yr commitment to the guard/reserve.
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AUAB? Or somewhere else?
BAF
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I was just informed: "You are TENTATIVELY APPROVED for separation from Active Duty via PALACE CHASE."
that's awesome....congrats!
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Will you have an airdrop mission or strictly airland? Been in RPA at cannon for last three years after leaving chs as an ACAD and taking a long look at VSP. Anyone know the mins for entry level airline? I only had 1500 hrs c17 and only 200 of that was PIC.
you need to subtract your 'other' time for the airlines if you haven't already.
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I'm in the exact same situation. Talked to RPA functional and base force management POC. Both confirmed the verbiage in the matrices that says "11x will be determined by RTDM code" so if like me your core is GJ or other variant of 11M core ID, you are eligible for VSP and RFF. Not for palace chase though. 11X is blocked for that program. Haven't seen anything that states whether or not vsp will have to be paid back if you subsequently get a guard/reserve position after separation. Anyone?
11x isnt blocked from palace chase.....only the expanded palace chase.
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so, have we determined the verbiage of what to put for VSP apps? and misc or sec af approved program?
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FY 14 Force Management Program (RIF, VSP, TERA)
in General Discussion
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so don't apply...
how so? no names included anywhere.