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That new Navy utility uniform is ideal for acft mx, it will hide any oil stain. Plus compared to their old work uniform they don't look like Federal inmates on work release anymore. Plus it hides a fat Navy chicks ass better. When deployed to a FOB they wear DCU's or whatever the USMC wears if attached to them. Can any old timers here explain to me why at a Red Flag in August when we still wore DCU's and BDU's could not wear our DCU's at Nellis on the flightline in 120 degree heat ?

Wouldn't that be a airfield management problem?

Link to pics, not pretty http://www.avweb.com/newspics/galleries/airventure2010/jack-roush-crash/large/02.jpg http://www.avweb.com/newspics/galleries/airventure2010/jack-roush-crash/large/01.jpg

My compliments to the CAF egress troops.

Here is a link of some good pic's. It appears that the right engine was not putting out anything if you look at the exhaust nozzles. I'm just a mx dude so I am assuming that f-18's don't fly well with just one engine. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/prairies/cf-18-fighter-jet-crashes-in-alberta/article1649943/#photos

I was given the book a few years back as a xmas present, I was at EGUN during Eldorado Canyon launching out KC-135Q's chasing Habu for battle damage assessment. IT was a night that I will never forget, very rarely did they launch both SR-71's and all the supporting KC-135Q's plus the two KC-135Q's that were from Plattsburgh which usally flew with dirty tanks and only got cleaned up to carry JP-7 only when a Beale Q model broke hard. The other days at EGUN I never got tired of watching the SR-71 takeoff plus I loved the sound of the start carts with their Buick 454's going to max rpm to turn the J-58's so they can light them of with the TEB triethylborane tabs to get the JP-7 fuel to burn.

I was talking to a T-38 mx guy who used to work for Cessna in Witchita who was on their JPATS bid. The Cessna 526 Citation jet was superior in all ways to the the T-6 which the Navy insisted on the side opening canopy and a turboprop. As mx lay person I don't understand a turbo prop trainer for USAF UPT studs which we only fly C-12's and C-130's in numbers plus not counting what SOCOM has in their inventory. The C526 looks like it would have been a great attack acft with that straight wing, lots of hard points. My friend told me after the competition the USAF told Cessna to destroy the acft. He called the T-6 the Sen Bob Dole gift to Beechcraft Kansas. I don't see the T-6 being around as long as the Tweet just because this acft wasn't built to take the abuse of the T-37. Here is a link about the C526. http://cessnawarbirds.com/2009/08/26/cessna-jpats-citationjet/

At least you were able to get your mx troops some recognition,most heavy mx sq I have known guys that have not one medal for anything for a whole 20 year career.

The most dangerous thing you will do is drive from Eskan to USMTM, the Saudi's driving habits are definately offensive and also insane, think driving NASCAR. Did Eskan prior to the big move to Prince Sultan AB after the Khobar Towers bombing. Yes it gets God Awful hot. Plus don't drink the water out of the taps.

For all you pilots that got banked and became mx officers, how did you endure your time in mx before going back to requal? Was it eye opening to see the other side of the debrief table? Did it help as you progressed during your career? Just curious from a Crew Chief that had a few banked pilots in my section during the early 90's. The early 90's was not very fun after Desert Storm from the mx side, VSI/SSB early retirements gutted alot of experiance on the active duty side which made for more long days if you were the only 7 level.

Here is a link of USAAF operations on IWO Jima after the Marines paid for it with blood and became a fighter base for P-51's and divert for B-29's enjoy. http://picasaweb.google.com/7thfighter/IwoJima?authkey=Gv1sRgCIW06db_6oth&feat=email#slideshow/5299163150448181842

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Howard I wonder if this guy complained about reflective belts or tucked in t shirts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Hartmann Here is another German bad ass, he had over 300 kills flying a ME-109.

You should have seen RAF Mildenhall when Operation Eldorado Canyon kicked off along with 20 KC-135A's all taking off heavy with water injection.

Being a prior flying Crew Chief on EC/KC-135's, E-3's and VC-137's I prefer flying without FE's. I am not begrudging the FE community but the AF diluted the FE DNA too much. With new FE's being taken out of every AFSC now without a mx background I have gotten into many severe discussions with FE's over what is a write up and what is not. During mx debriefs I could always tell the difference between a fuel panel management and checklist reader specialist and a real FE who knew what they were talking about. Back in the 80's new FE's had to be prior Crew Chiefs, jet mech or hydro troops which those 3 afsc's were almost impossible to Xtrain out of, I know I tried to be a FE 3 x's, needs of the USAF come first. Having a prior cop or services guy now a FE has alot of drawbacks starting out they can't tell the difference between what is good and no good , they just know what their checklist says. I always enjoyed having a non prior mx FE tell me how to do a repair, I always responded with "can I tell you how to fly".

I thought this a good place to post a link, this is what it is all about with our CSAR guys doing the mission despite shoeclerkness that goes on. These were taken by Michael Yon a independent journalist prior USA special forces. http://www.michaelyon-online.com/pedros.htm

I have been trolling here for months and could no longer stay silent. As a old Crew Chief/Expeditor/Pro Super MSgt now retired since 03 I hope all the CGO's here who bite the bullet and become career officers, that when you pass over to the field grade that you remember what went on at AUAB and not repeat this buffoonry. Having served in that part of the world since 1981 Elf One,Desert Shield/Storm,Op Provide Comfort, ONW/OSW,OEF I see that the gents who never deployed in my day who stayed at home station and made my life horrible are now deploying in vast numbers. Which in my 23 years I stayed deployed just to stay from those REMF's. As a interested observer who finds civilian life just G*& D*&% boring my suggestion is to get everyone on the same page, like take your non op CGO to work day, give them a taste of what your life is like from mission planning,execution to op/mx debrief, make them a duty pax. Now in turn work the schedule and find out what it takes to run a air base(remember when you get up the food chain your going to have to know that shit). Don't be that guy who is too cool for school when a Crew Chief is trying to teach you how to take care of your jet when you divert into a place with zero support and no flying Crew Chief. Many of you I probably know your faces if you ever had to deal with KTIK TA during your UPT/AETC days. I was the one wearing a blue shirt and pants. Remember you guys are doing what most of us dreamed about when we were kids to be a military pilot, I'm pissed they did not invent lasik back in the early 70's since I lost the DNA lottery with being nearsighted and all.