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Very distant relative. I remember hearing the story a long time ago as a kid. Randomly a couple days ago I called and thought to get clarity from another family member and found this. After my own service it takes on a whole new meaning. We had a great discussion how in 1949 when 12 O'clock High came out no one wanted to see or discuss the movie because the feelings were still so raw in the family. Only child. Yesterday I noticed today would have been his 100th birthday. Lt. Dunn and Crew Marshall Clyde Dunn was born on April 20, 1924, in Wichita County, Texas. He was the son of Clyde Stanley Dunn and Merle Sheldon Dunn. He was a graduate of the Electra High School and was a member of the band. He was attending Texas A & M when he enlisted in the Army Air Force. Marshall entered the service in February 1943 and had been overseas in October 1944. He served in the 850th Bomber Squadron, 490th Bomber Group, Heavy, as a First Lieutenant and Pilot on the B-17G #43-38699 during World War II. He was Killed in Action on February 6, 1945, when his airplane was involved in a mid-air collision with B-17G #43-38167 over France. That day, his crew took off from airfield station 134 in Eye, England, for a strategic mission to Chemnitz, Germany. Upon reaching 17,000 feet, his plane collided with B-17G #43-38167 piloted by Lt Schoenfield and crashed near Mittersheim. This resulted in the death of seven members of his crew; 3 survived and recovered. Sgt Johnston, who jumped around 3000 feet, indicated that the survivors were transferred to Nancy, then to Vittel, returned to Nancy, then Paris by rail, and finally returned to the UK in C-47 on February 11, 1945. 1Lt Dunn is now buried in the Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas, USA. Airmen who perished on B-17G #43-38699: Dunn, Marshall C ~ 1st Lt, Pilot Philley, Jack O ~ 2nd Lt, Co-Pilot Baland, Helmer O ~ 2nd Lt, Navigator Horton, Fred H ~ S/Sgt, Ball Turret Gunner Mayhew, Donald R ~ S/Sgt, Radio Operator, NY McKinney, Clarence H ~ T/Sgt, Mechanic Mulvihill, Edward J ~ S/Sgt, Bombardier The survivors were SSgt Dean R. Smith, SSgt George A. Naifeh, and SSgt Osvil F. Johnston.

This demographic does seem to try harder to please. So I've been told.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this but one of the worse things is to suddenly find out a military prediction is wrong because by then it's usually too late. As an example, I admit Hamas hitting Israel like they did was something I would have never seen coming in a million years. I'm still dumfounded Israel could get caught that flat footed.

I would counter that was the thought in the 1930s with Germany. Hitler just wanted a little more territory and he would be good. I have little doubt had Putin been in power in the 1930s-40s he would have been just as bad. What line is too far? I'm still as pissed as many over the Charlie Foxtrot that was/is Afghanistan but at least Ukraine is willing to fight.

Ukraine sees allies protect Israel from Iran attack and asks: What about us? (nbcnews.com) Actually makes a great point.

Of course, to be fair there was a time where some thought Blackhawks looked like Hinds. Deadly serious business and we can't forget the hard lessons.

Leave to the jokers in the crowd to decide the significance of of the 2 and 3 inch dimensions. 😁

Couldn't resist. 😎

I just finished watching Master's of the Air. Well done series imho . I look at each and every one of them who brought down an enemy plane with a 50 cal as an ace whether in a P-51 or a ball turret.

Only counts if this is how it was done

Seems like a perfect chance to test Dark Eagle. This will arrive a lot faster than their drones.

You're certainly in good company on this board😎

Unfortunately the last time I needed assistance in this area I was CONUS. But I certainly like the concept 💡

Russians have been inflicting headaches for years with their Vodka

And broad power to NOT go after someone(s) and look the other way until it's politically expedient. I'm sure this has been done in New York by the rich and powerful in general and Trump in particular for years and now someone finally decides it's a problem. Bottom line why now and not 20 years ago?

Waaait a minute. You can't fool me with that song and dance again.😁You have to get up by the crack of noon to get ahead of me.

I'm still wondering how they're able to keep their logistics going to maintain their launch optempo. I can see if they've stockpiled a fair amount in the years no one was looking but sooner or later they're going to run out of missiles. Going forward if we catch you with contraband, you getting your A$$ sunk or blown up. No questions asked.

Did they ever give you a 2 pound sledge hammer and send you out to the motor pool to check for thin spots in the armor? 🙂

I know in Iraq it took a pretty big IED to take one out. Unlike Russian tanks I'm sure the crew had a much better chance at survival. No turret throwing contest. Assuming the video is real it was shown burning so I don't know what condition it's in. To your point on repair, I'm skeptical the capability is there to fix many of these. Media reports say a drone did it, but I guess you can say even a Javelin style weapon could loosely fit in that category depending on who's doing the reporting. More info to follow I'm sure.

First M1 Abrams Tank Destroyed In Ukraine—Social Media Reacted (forbes.com) I suppose it was only a matter of time. So many truths about Air Land Battle are no more.

I would say just the sheer amount of time operating in close proximity to Mother Earth and everything sticking out of it not to mention operating off other than pavement raise the odds of a mishap even on a good day. My .69

Bullet(s) for the OPR/OER

Bet whoever put together that stellar powerpoint will get a bullet and that is the extent of their Give a Sh!t.

Are those a stack of singles? No trip to the strip club for you! To paraphrase a recently departed true American Treasure Toby Keith, this is what happens when "Uncle Sam puts your name at the top of his list."