Lumbergh

Thanks. I thought by chance it would have new information. I feel dumb for thinking that!

Link??

audioflyer, That's correct about it being postponed. I applied and got an email from my CC saying that the VSP program has been postponed and further guidance from AFPC should be coming the next few weeks. Awesome, right?

Serious question...does anybody have any clue why 13-130 hasn't been officially released yet? I'm thankful that some CC's thought it was important enough to get out to their people, but what the f--k is big blue's deal? So far, this whole RIF/VSP announcement has been an epic train wreck. America's Air Force, no one comes close....to being this retarded

Van1, Have you ever thought about a rental property? You could probably find a nice property (single family or multi-family) for $50k down that could net you a nice return. And then you'd still have a good chunk of money to stick somewhere else.

Thanks for the heads up

56, Has 13-130 been released yet? I didn't see it when I searched on myPers. Thanks

I must have misunderstood you then. In any case, I wasn't trying to be a d---. I understand your point, but it always seems AFPC/AF is sending out mixed signals.

That sounds like a fantastic idea. Also, three years would not be half of your remaining committment as a pilot

MountainHerc, how long of a commitment did you have left? Either way, seems stupid since they're phasing out legacy herks on AD!

I'm sure a CBT would have fixed this... https://www.cnn.com/2013/07/31/us/california-filner-scandal/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

was it my description of chapter 11 that was BS or was it that taxpayer dollars shouldn't bailout failed companies? which part? seriously, if you think ford and GM are going to recover, you should take advantage of the sale price right now and buy some more stock and try and make some of your money back. just don't do it with my money. and if they don't recover, the government will have wasted billions of dollars we currently don't have. i just think the american people should have a say before making a bad investment. hell, we don't even know where most of the money went that we loaned to the financial companies! sorry, that you lost some of your investments. i think most people in this economy have. but it's not the taxpayer's job to prop it back up. that's the real BS! companies should be responsible for their actions. it's not my fault that GM loses $2k every time they make a new car. i'm no financial expert but i wouldn't invest in that!! and to your last statement about Toyota...how come they're not begging for a bailout? and yes, they are about to take a hit too, but why are they better positioned than Ford and GM? i think that would be what we call a lack of leadership and vision. these idiots thought cheap oil would be around forever. these are the same companies who lobbied against higher fuel efficiency standards for decades. (this is just one example of bad practices) and now that their plan has failed, they want my help. umm, no thank you.

FAIL... excuse me, i'm going to call a giant, heaping serving of bullshit on this one. you have no idea just like the rest of us what would happen if they failed. and it's not the government's responsibility to prop up a failing company. if you or i, or anyone for that matter, had a company and it failed, no one would bail us out. did you ever stop to think about the profitable companies that are going to be affected by this? the ones who did not build shitty cars and lack foresight into the future? why should a good company suffer and have to compete against a failing one who gets magically rescued with taxpayer dollars? i don't believe capitalism or the free market requires the government to step in when things go a little south, especially when the ineptitude starts at the top with these incompetent CEOs. furthermore, filing for chapter 11 doesn't mean that everyone just packs up their bags and goes home. (no doubt, people will still lose their jobs.) it's a reorganizing of the company while creditors can't collect their payments. so, bringing in someone with competence to take over (and hopefully make the company profitable again) during this time instead of the current jackass CEO would be a brilliant idea. obviously, you're against logic. also, the government is simply going to borrow most of the money from china or japan, pushing the country further into debt and further devaluing the dollar. but hey, i'm sure we won't "feel" those things either. i'm not against people wanting to invest in the auto companies. i think they should invest with their own money. now, go choke yourself, not with my taxpayer dollars, but with your taxpayer dollars if you feel that strongly about the big 3 auto companies succeeding, i'm sure they won't mind you buying some of their stock. the markets open monday morning at 8am. feel free to further evaporate your 401k and make another charitable donation. but as a sound-minded individual, i would strongly advise against it. ps the lions suck!

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