contraildash

Like what the Russians did recently. "we didn't intend to kill them"

Do you have a lot of household goods? I had enough stuff to fill a 2 bedroom apt and they forced me to stay on Vance, without my stuff for six months. The kicker was that I had to pay out of my own pocket to store my HHG until the occupancy level got high enough for me to move. Apparently that was all a bunch of BS and I shouldn't have been force to stay in the dorms. That was back in 07/08, but it seemed like things had changed significantly when I left in 09. But with new wing leadership, who knows. Like osulax said, just give them a call and get a feeling for what the current situation there is like. There's actually a lot of places (apts/conodos/houses) around Enid. Other than people trying to actually buy houses, I didn't know anyone that had a hard time finding a place to live off base.

Those people just suck.

ATC tape According to the NTSB, Roush is the one on the radio questioning the clearance. He is out of the hospital, but has permanent vision loss in one eye. He's adamant he'll be back flying again. (props on the attitude!)

ICP is still around? Almost nothing worse than two almost over the hill white dudes dressed like clowns singing shitty music....

Just saw Restrepo tonight, very good documentary. Tough to watch at times.

I never really understood that beyond "that's how it's been" and the lack of fighters for T-38 studs.

Steel Rain

The exhaust from my car could lift a piper cub...

Didn't tie down your plane correctly? Not My F*cking Problem. Wonder what the whole story is.

Some article said that the woman involved might be some sort of politician. Whatever, but in any case, how can the passenger break rules, hit a flight attendant with luggage (some say hit, some say it fell out of the overhead) and nothing is done? World's unfair I guess.

Ask the C-40 crew that popped a slide recently. There is a monetary value attached to that, not 500K though.

What a brilliant f'n idea. Those two dudes pretty much got cooked alive. Darwinism.

I'll make sure it works first. I ran into this problem with a different video, just have to run it through a program to re-encode it. Also, don't put any possible/obvious keywords in the title or associated search words. But yeah, when I am back on fast internet I'll test it out and let ya know.

Crazy pictures. Could have been way worse, glad they are ok.

Yeah no kidding! How did the landing go?

Huggy, that wasn't my intent there. Spoo was a bit better in getting to the point I was trying to make: recognizing a bad setup early on and making the timely decision to go around. You guys both know that decision making is sometimes clouded by the attitude of "I can make this work." There's lot's of external and internal pressures that hamper good decision making. I succumbed to it, I got off lucky and am the better for it. I saw the video of the immediate aftermath, boy were they lucky. Roush is a great guy, I met him a couple times back when I was a FBO line dog. Maybe it was the Premier back then, but I coulda sworn he used to have one of the small Citations. PS You two bastards are lucky to be there...again. I haven't been yet, and missed two great chances to fly up with a buddy in a Cub in years past. Hopefully someday.

Yeah those comments are insane. A friend's neighbor is one of these chemtrail nuts. She stopped by when we were hanging out in the backyard drinking and I wanted to punt her in the vag after she went after me 'the pilot' for spreading chemtrails. There's some woman that lives in San Antonio 10 miles off Kelly's extended center line that posts a bunch of videos of C-5s and their "terroristic harassment" of her. There's more than enough lunatics out there to keep me entertained on YouTube.

Go-arounds are free. Cliche? Yes. True? Yes. -rant on Two weeks ago I butchered an easy approach rather bad, right over the threshold. I should have called my own go, but thankfully the other guy did. We went around to a full stop. What really pissed me off (other than my bad flying) was how the controllers were less than accommodating for us going around. It was eye opening on all accounts, but the fact that ATC was not supportive of our decision to go around really irks me. There was no other traffic at the time in the pattern or landing behind us. Seriously, what would mess their day up more: me going around and giving them 10 minutes of extra work, or crashing on their damn airfield? -rant off Roush undoubtedly was under the same 'must land' pressure that we all experience at one point or another and even more so at Oshkosh. You just have to be a big boy and make the correct call.

:beer: :beer: 1982 Perryville Prison crash

that'd be awesome to see. lol The song playing was, well, literally perfect for the situation.

Well played! Looking forward to some more stories. And to whomever negatived me, seriously?

Great story and all, but what did you get her? :)

Wheelz, I agree with that. I was just saying that the change in yaw wouldn't necessarily be what caused the stall, more so the loss of the thrust that was sustaining him in high AOA slow flight. The asymmetrical yaw just made things worse (yaw-roll-change in lift vector) at a point when this dude was way behind the power curve (not his fault). That flight regime make me curious. Are the wings actually stalled out to begin with? Is it just the thrust keeping the jet in the air? Could a F-18 even muscle it's way out of that flight regime on a single engine? Who knows. I don't. Bottom line, there wasn't much of a safety margin and unfortunately something failed on this dude. Fortunately he made the timely decision to eject.

Anyone else catch the music that was playing? Rather appropriate. I don't think the F-18 has huge issues with asymmetric thrust when the engines are as close as they could possibly get. More like a contributing factor to why the jet went right when it stalled, but not the cause of the crash. More like high AOA + low airspeed + loss of thrust = stall.