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Slight side track, my dad brought up an interesting point that I never really considered before. We've been at war for roughly 12 years. How much intel do you think our "enemies" have collected on us? Granted, the way we are currently fighting in Afghanistan and to a certain extent were fighting in Iraq are not the way we are going to fight say China, Russia, N.Korea, etc...but they have probably picked up a lot of info on the way we do business.

My brother and I are going out there for the Vikes game. We'll be out there for a few days so we'll be looking for stuff to do. We don't like the normal touristy crap, unless there are some must sees. Anybody have any ideas for cool stuff to do/check out?

For all those who are "in" PM your email addresses...we'll get this show on the road.

Anybody else????

9 so far. Yes to ESPN Need 3 more.

I knew that would happen and it's my own fault for not clarifying that it was a jab at current BUFF ops. No disrespect to your dad and his crew. Those guys did have big brass ones. 11 Days of Christmas gets read at least once a year and that audio of a BUFF run in Vietnam that somebody posted not too long ago is a testament to what those guys went through. BUFF (myself included) guys are well aware and proud of their heritage, those who came before, sacrifices from other crew dogs etc. No intent to offend.

Looking to get another league going this year. Twelve teams. $25 a piece. Who's in?

One of those deals where we will never truly know what went on. The movie has potential and hopefully it is done right...then again, it could be one of those that completely misses the mark. Not a big Wahlberg fan, but I'll give it shot. Slight tangent: It's movies/books like this that make me feel just a little inferior to those dudes. Flying around safe and cozy (as cozy as you can be in the BUFF) at 32k eating chicken wings isn't exactly big brass balls kinda stuff.

In Soviet Russia, gear stays up! Ah, ah, ah!

Is there a difference?

Springsteen > Disgruntled Employee > Manfred Mann

Man...just looking at the pics and video...while only two died and many will have life-long issues (physical and mental) this could have been a lot worse.

Asians love taking pictures-Fact

Your avatar creeps me the fuck out.

Smart dude, all-around good guy, got a DFC with V if I remember correctly. Tough year for the AF.

Ie been out of the game a few years...don't they have a shit load of AAA and artillery?

A lot more saber rattling than usual the past couple of days. The young whipper snapper must want to put on the big boy pants.

Damn...not much left there.

I seem to remember reading somewhere there are over 200 different "bands" in the armed forces, costing DoD roughly $550 million per year. The Army (AD, NG, and Res) alone has over 100. I can see keeping each of the service's bigger bands, but 200 is ridiculous. There is a pride/heritage/tradition with some of them, and I can appreciate that. But I think 200 and $550 million a year is overkill. If you're going to cut things like Thunderbirds, airshows, flybys, etc...then cuts need to be made across the board to include "bands".

It's amazing they haven't cancelled this thing yet. I'm all for better tech and replacing an aging fleet, but this is getting ridiculous. Kinda looks like it has a stache...and lipstick on.

Not that I give news anchors much credit...but this chick on Fox is a genuine idiot.

I was wondering why they just wouldn't be at Scott.

Going to Lambert now...

Again, not a helicopter guy...heard the crew say just before they took off "top left" and then "forward right". We were sitting around at work and being the resident Air Force guy, everybody asked me what that meant...I had no clue.

Is that Nav, ahem, I mean WSO (I'm sorry, don't want WSOs to be butthurt) union approved?