HuggyU2

2..., I mean "Deuce".

Curious... There's a lot of respect for Lt Gen Frank Gorenc. And for good reason. Big guy, he is. I'm guessing he's never had a 36" waist or smaller. Seems it hasn't affected his ability to be a great commander.

... except for the fact that it we shouldn't be so overmanned in CENTCOM that they have the folks to "monitor" these tests. $28M for the testing program AF wide, and we need to trim our spending?

Spoo, Is this your not-so-subtle-way of poking me in the eye? For the record, Comm had NO control of those "bad boys".

On a happier note, I saw the March ARB C-17 Demo perform twice this weekend. It's at least the 22th performance I've seen them do. They created the profile, they have a lot of experience in that unit, and they do a fantastic job. I see a lot of airshows. I ask folks "which military demo was your favorite". More than a few choose the March C-17 demo.

Irrelevant. The FAA does not have jurisdiction in Germany, even on an American airbase. If you watch the TBirds, you will notice the crossing point after their bomb burst is 500' past the far right edge of the crowd line. Had the Frecci Tricolori, done that, it might have been a different outcome. Maj "Moose" Phillips: thanks for the correction. I never met him. Also, there was the F-117 demo crash over the Martin State, MD show in 1997. That was a mechanical failure and had nothing to do with the airshow... or so I'm told.

A very misleading statement, since there hasn't been a spectator death in a US airshow since 1954. Compare that to,... oh,...say Monster Truck racing. Last year, 2 spectators died in under two weeks at separate venues. One was a child. Yet no one is wringing their hands on how we "stop the madness" in Monster Truck. And let's just see what exactly what the accident board comes up with in the C-17 accident before we knee jerk this. Yes. Moose Phillips (F-16 East) was killed at Kingsville around 2002 in a performance.

As idiotic as it is, rides are not possible on a USAF base. Navy base,... well that's a different story.

Amen! The first thing you have ever posted that I agree with. Thanks for volunteering.

Contraildish, You are implying he didn't attempt to go around. We don't know that. A high steep approach, in idle, and a late decision to go around, coupled with engine spool might have caused his go around to end prematurely. Too bad he didn't demand to land on 36L.

You are correct... he had only about 6000' at best to roll wing level, stabilize, land, and stop on rwy 18R. I don't know anything about the Premier's abilities, but it was certainly tight. Even the other guy in the pattern supposedly questioned tower's clearance to Roush. Yes, he overshot. Very fortunate he didn't take out performer's aircraft or people. I wasn't looking when it happened, but went over to the Performers Tent the next day, and looked at the site. He crashed proably about 1000' south of the P-2 intersection, right of 18R.

I read that Allen refused to have that photo anywhere in his facilities, and until the day he died, the photo infuriated him.

Does that include Creech?

Ummm... your photo is upside down..

OK, I'll bite on this thread. Maybe not the best, but Beale doesn't suck. Nevermind the great airspace for the actual military flying... Great weather for general aviation piloting. 6 GA airports within an hour. You want warbirds? World class soaring? Look no further. Tahoe ski basin 1+30 - 2+00 away, including Squaw Valley (free for military) Lake Tahoe for the summer. Sierra Nevadas 1 hour. World class mountain biking. San Fran 2 hours away,... too much to list Wanna get away? SFO has direct flights to nearly anywhere in the world. Reno 2 hours away. Air races coming up in 2 months. Who's going? Napa and Sonoma Valley under 2 hours. Sacramento 1 hour... State capital, college town, good times. Sac Airport to LAX in about an hour, and $150 one way,... cheaper if you plan ahead. I've done San Dawg for ~$50 on SWA.

Yet another great airplane, gone by the wayside. Sure wish I could have flown it... for a year or so.

I found it on e-publishing. 26 Aug 05 publishing date.

It's an investment. How bad do you really want to fly? $5K is too much, but an 11-year commitment isn't?

We get ours at New Embroidery, outside the gate at Osan,...

Well, the gov't is already half-regulating the airline industry. They can't even merge UAL and CAL without wringing their nervous hands, worried that they might raise prices. Hello? How much money are the airlines losing each year? I'd be willing to be many folks are willing to give deregulation a try. Plus, it should help cut all the attempts at cabotage. Gov't involvement is problematic, no doubt... but I'm willing to see how it works.

I checked with my airfield manager: no reason you should have to get permission from the Wing/CC, as a general rule. According to him, active duty and retirees should be able to get access with just a bit of paperwork. I know, I know... someone will have a "my Wing CC wouldn't let you land here" story. I'm just going with what I'm told. Five of us were partnering on an aircraft, and flying it to work was not a big deal when we asked.

I'm no A&P by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd like to comment on this. First, I've just read some data on engine failures: a large percentage (it might have been the majority) failed shortly after the overhaul. I can't remember how many hours "shortly" is, but it was a large window. High time engines with good compression checks were quite reliable. There is a school of thought out there pushing to let high time engines keep flying if periodic inspections are good. Second, I'd rather buy a timed out engine for three reasons: 1. it will be cheaper 2. the reason above 3. I can get it rebuilt by a high end rebuilder (like Penn Yan or the guy near Fresno, CA) and know it was done right. Just an observation & opinion. BTW, sticks, it sounds like you are having a very good time. Nice to see someone here maxing out the flying-fun meter.

Sad to hear. Dave and I were FAIPs together. And for all you Perry Mason's out there, it wasn't just the DD callout issue, so don't focus on it. LearJetter is spot on: that was simply one indicator of a larger issue. Every investigation I've seen like this in my career has had multiple flags that got the attention. Had it been one thing, it wouldn't have raised an eyebrow.