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  1. Count me in with Boom then. If/when a superior officer is a complete and utter d1ck, as demonstrated repeatedly, I, too, have adopted the use of calling him/her by rank. UCMJ says I have to respect the rank. Professional competence and custom gets the individual. "Sir/ma'am" is one I use for someone I respect. I start with that but once it's unearned, f>ck 'em. I've also done it with enlisted as well - use the full rank, "Technical Sergeant Bag o'" or even, very rarely, "Chief Master Sergeant Schmuck." Respect is assumed until it's no longer earned. Then it is the rank and not the man. A commission, or lack thereof, is not a bye for being a jerk.
  2. dfresh, it's a very old line... stiffler, check on the Guard thing. I was 13 years AD, then almost 9 Reserve AGR, very different mentality. Guard is mostly the same, I would think. As most guys are hired or commissioned from the unit, you don't get a lot of folks that won't fit in do you? There is also the 'will be there a long time' factor vs. the active duty 'gone in 2-3 years' mindset. Pluses/minuses on both sides.
  3. stiffler, I'll let Boom answer for himself, but I've seen here and in real life some (ok, a lot) of buffoonery/condescension by, usually, junior officers towards enlisted. My opinion is that by E-5/O-3, most folks have figured it out and just want to get on with the job. Play by the rules, both written and unwritten (customs), and most things sort themselves out. Sock/reflective belt police and those O-6s who love them excepted... But unlike M2, I was never enlisted. My parents weren't related prior to marriage and were married well before I was born.
  4. Voiceover ads: 1. Sam Smith is so corrupt he needs someone else to tell him right from wrong. 2. Sam Smith, one way in public, another in private. Do we really need another one like that in Congress? 3. Sam Smith, failure on the contraction of "I'll" issue. I'm Tommy Tool and I approved of this message. Seriously, good luck. As you say you have previous elected experience, then you have 100% more than me, but I'd be wary of anything, including any baseops words, not coming back to haunt you should you become a serious contender. Opponents hire some seriously smart dirt finders. Here in DC, there is an entire industry based on it. No doubt there are others around the country. Good on you for wanting to hold/tell CSAF the truth. Will your constituents care? If not, I suspect your priorities will change. But then I'm cynical on the whole process. And we wonder why we get the clowns we get? Not directed, necessarily, at the thread opener candidate.
  5. I in no condone/defend the buffoonery that's written about here, but for the thought that it's a recent syndrome, not so much: In every conflict, including those from before there was a USAF, the initial stages of a war are about killing/holding the line. As things get better, REMFs (phrase has also been around forever) move in and make the rules. Nose art of WWII was given as an example of the 'good old days.' In forward areas before mass communications or with complete censorship as was practiced, the babes and disrespectful, but cool, names could exist. Once some of the more outrageous (some would say outstanding, but I digress) nose art examples made it back via the press, the brakes were put on in most places. I forget the name, but there was a congressman, during the war, who was shocked by the nose art. Big Green, the predecessor to Big Blue, put out guidelines on what was permitted. Again, the further you were from civilization, the more that was ignored. 8th AF nose art rarely featured bare boobs, etc. 13th AF in the ass end of the world in the Pacific had some stuff that would make Hustler blush. Some other examples - remember the scene in "Patton" where he mandates everyone wear a necktie? Based on historical truth. Think those guys didn't think it was their version of 'reflective belts?' The shirt tucked in scene from "The Caine Mutiny" is also from historical truth. Pettiness or trying to outdo your competition in queep to get noticed/advanced isn't new. Why is Olds held in such high esteem? Because he flouted the REMF attitude prevelant in Vietnam USAF - his combat mustache, etc. All those things wer forbidden by senior leaders. Once those leaders started appearing in Vietnam, the Wild West days started to go away. Olds got it - these small things helped with morale during long periods of war as in Vietnam or today. The endless grind of what we're doing means that small safety valves help keep bigger problems from occuring. Mostly. The lights out leadership sees it as the first frayed thread of good order and discipline. If allowed, then bigger and worse problems will begin. They're wrong, but they're just repeating history. Which is what we as humans usually do. It will take a new Olds to tell the emperor his clothes are missing. Any out there? crickets, crickets.....
  6. Based on what was presented, the e-mail, most of those comments have been accurate. Any additional information can change the reaction as the conditions presented will have changed. Until then, the e-mail ranks up there with the 'tuck in your PT shirt' e-mails with their threats of consequences. Care to elaborate?
  7. Read the guy's e-mail and you'll see that it's not.* *Chicago Handbook of Style consulted to ensure proper use of "you'll" and "it's."
  8. Hacker, I did include 'generally' in my comment. Absolutely there are times to hammer in public. A blatant disrespectful attitude by a subordinate to a superior in front of a crowd is one such example. Rain down pain upon his skull at that moment. For the given example in the e-mail, I'd go with a private, directive conversation. As a rule, I stand by "praise in public, criticize in private." Technique only and moot for me anymore. Dealing with/in the civilian world is a whole different ballgame although the basics still apply, just the 'niceness/everbody's special' factor has to be there lest HR/the civvie equivalent of social actions roll in.
  9. Not been to UPT, so not qualified to comment on the environment. However, on the 'leadership' by e-mail, yeah, I think it is. Any comm sent out to subordinates - ADO to Flt/CCs is public comm. He directed them to fix the problem as well as put a spurious 'threat' of what would happen to the next guy. He'll never do the entire day brace. First, it's probably not valid and second, it's not the way to do it. Remember praise in public, criticize in private? Generally good advice. A curt "Lt, I'd like to see you in my office," followed by a one-way conversation is the way to go. Not a stooge on public display. Ever wonder why officers are treated with contempt by junior enlisted at training bases? Here's a classic example. Permanent party tend to adopt an attitude towards students. Perpetuating it is not good leadership. Again, this isn't just a UPT thing, assuming that exists there, but it does exist at other training bases. Actually talking to his Flt/CCs and/or making an example of 'the next guy' are examples of leadership. Venting in an e-mail shows a lack professionalism. If he vented here on baseops, fair enough. To do it at work, on e-mail, with the inherent risk that it will be forwarded to all and sundry, is not. Finally, are there really that many meetings at the squadron level that another one is a pain? I would think/hope that any unit leadership directed meetings were few and far between and therefore carry some weight. If not, disregard. But that'd be a whole different leadership problem.
  10. And, if true, was leadership by e-mail. Add face to face contact to the list of 'forgotten' items.
  11. "Black Suburbans, go..." "2" "3" "4"
  12. 0 for just shy of 22 years. I did mentor my Lts and airmen starting about the 7 year point. Great post. USAF does (always has) a sucky job at preparing officers to be leaders. If the first time you're leading people is as the Lt Col squadron commander, the institution is as much to blame for the results as the individual. Support does a better job of putting younger guys in leadership positions at an earlier point, I think.
  13. Doug Masters would never 'settle' for anything.
  14. "Down Periscope" is A-list? Must've been a different movie. The chick's rack in that was good, but the movie....ehh
  15. "No Time for Sergeants," "Dr. Strangelove," "Strategic Air Command," "12 o'clock High" and let's not forget, our very own IRON EAGLEs 1- whatever
  16. I think as a citizenry as a whole we are a little different than the Europeans (and I include the Aussies philosophically) who have a longer history of more authoritarian government with a much more socially stratified society. They have a centuries-long history of bending knee. We do not. (No, that's not all inclusive and greatly simplifying the differences). As our roots come from a mass of dissidents/immigrants, I think we are ok for a generation or two. However, as we become more urban, more 'civilized,' more pussified, then this could happen. The constant assualt (no pun intended) on the 2d Amendment by the very liberal (who I contend are more similar to Western Europeans) left in America could eventually make this a reality. Oddly, the GWOT reaction on bigger government for security is also helping this cause. As, thus far, that's been a right of the aisle responsibility, things could get ugly. But not in my lifetime.
  17. "Guests of the Ayatollah: The First Battle in America's War with Militant Islam," Mark Bowden, 2006. About the hostage crisis of 1979-1980. Same guy did "Black Hawk Down," "Killing Pablo," and some others (I highly recommend those other two as well.) Although a little long (600+ pages), it is incredibly thorough. Views of/interviews with the hostages, families, terrorist "students," military, political figures of the time, and so on. Well put together, perhaps even too detailed, but that's minor. The Desert One mission is a highlight: Guys went in undercover, scoped out Tehran, and the desired landing spot. Other guys flew a recce mission to put a Twin Otter on the desert to see if it actually was a good spot for the rescue staging area. USAF combat controller set up a LZ using IR markers, etc, etc. Good description of the attempt and mishap that ended it. Made for a very jaw-tightening read to see how America was humiliated. Makes me dislike Carter even more than I did. Good descriptions of the hostages reactions - some collaborated, some resisted, some in between. US 'do-gooders' went to Tehran to help - criticized the US as evil, said the terrorists were justified for taking hostages, etc, etc. Like Hanoi Jane, part deux. Examples of other attention whores trying to get on the media stage; the press being the press, etc, etc. Good, if long, read.
  18. One (kinda) for the space and missile dudes... THROUGH THE BACK DOOR In the movie “Space Cowboys,” Clint Eastwood plays a Chuck Yeager-ish test pilot/engineer who leads a group of aging astronauts to rescue a former Soviet nuclear-armed satellite. In a case of art imitating life, during the height of the Cold War and space race, both superpowers contemplated basing nuclear weapons in space. One side, the former USSR, actually had an operational system during much of the 1960s. At the beginning of the space confrontation between the two countries, begun with the October 4, 1957 launch of Sputnik, just lofting an object into orbit was a major achievement. Within a very short span of time, the ability to carry useful payloads whether man or machine, became a primary focus. The Soviets jumped out to an early lead in the race by the successively bigger payloads of capsules containing dogs and finally the first man in space, Yuri Gagarin on April 4, 1961. The Soviet premier, Nikita Khrushchev, boasted of the Soviet superiority of his country’s space accomplishments. On August 9, 1961, at a reception for the second Soviet astronaut, Gherman Titov bragged “You do not have 50 or 100 megaton bombs; we have bombs more powerful than 100 megatons. We placed Gagarin and Titov in space and we can replace them with other loads that can be directed to any place on Earth.” (A megaton is the equivalent of one million tons of TNT.) Detecting ICBMs Both sides spent considerable time and energy developing methods of monitoring the nuclear capability of the other. For detection of incoming Soviet intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), the United States developed both ground and space based systems. One of the earliest and still effective systems was the BMEWS (Ballistic Missile Early Warning System), a network of high-powered long-range radars placed around the northern periphery of the Western Hemisphere. An approach over the North Pole was considered the most likely for any Soviet missile or bomber strike since it was the point of closest approach between the U.S.’s and USSR’s landmasses. By utilizing these radars, and eventually, launch detecting infra-red satellites, the U.S. hoped to gain a good 30 minutes of advance warning of a Soviet nuclear strike. With that much warning, the mighty Strategic Air Command fleet of B-47 and B-52 bombers could be flushed from their mid-western bases and sent on a retaliatory mission. Likewise, the U.S. Titan and Minuteman ICBMs could be launched in a massive counterstrike. Similarly, the Soviets developed missile tracking radars and satellites to counter any U.S. first strike. This standoff between detecting the enemy’s force before he can destroy you and negate your ability to destroy him in turn was known as mutually assured destruction (MAD). Neither side supposedly had an incentive to hit first because the return blow would wipe out the first side’s country. The Back Door The Soviets calculated that a missile fired into a low orbital trajectory would greatly lessen the chances of detection since it would appear above the horizon and thus be visible to the searching radar beams of the Americans much later than would a conventional ICBM profile. For example, the first operational Soviet ICBM, the R-7 (NATO code name SS-6), could loft a nearly three thousand pound payload into a ballistic trajectory of between 600-1200 miles altitude for a target 3,000 miles away. The instant the ascending missile cleared the radar horizon radar and other sensors would detect the rocket and sound the alert. A low orbit weapon using only a 100-200 mile apogee orbit would decrease the warning time to five minutes and that only if the incoming warhead was coming from over the Artic area. If a bomb were to make an approach from the south, the U.S., in the early 1960s, was woefully unguarded. The time from detection to impact would have been only a few minutes. In March 1962, Khrushchev stated, “We can launch missiles not only over the North Pole, but in the opposite direction, too…Global rockets can fly from the oceans or other directions where warning facilities cannot be installed. Given global missiles, the warning system in general has lost its importance. Global missiles cannot be spotted in time to prepare any measures against them.” It was a clear statement of Soviet intentions to place nukes in orbit. By 1967, United Nations Resolution 1884 and the Outer Space Treaty called upon States to refrain from placing in orbit around earth any objects carrying nuclear or other mass-destruction weapons. The USSR promptly dubbed its orbital weapon system a “Fractional Orbital Bombardment System” or FOBS. By simply not inserting the payload into a complete orbit, the Soviets continued with their research into delivering thermonuclear bombs via a low-trajectory, low visibility route. The Equipment In Soviets started a three-pronged approach to get a nuclear orbital system in place. The first proposed orbital missile was the Vladimir Chelomey design based on the UR-1 ICBM. The Soviets gave the ok to proceed with work on this system on March 16, 1961. This was a two stage design, known as the UR-200A, used an RD-0202 first stage engine developing 228 tons of thrust and an RD-0205 second stage with 62 tons of thrust. The second proposal came from the legendary designer Sergey P. Korolev. He had begun preliminary work on the Global Missile No.1 (GR-1) in 1960. The Soviet Central Committee and the USSR Council of Ministers gave the formal go-ahead on September 24, 1962. The GR-1 was a part of Korelev’s N1 lunar program booster. The GR-1 and N1 shared many common design features to aid in the development of both systems. For example, the GR-1 used NK-9 and –9V engines, each developing thrust in the 45-ton range. Korolev’s design team used these same engines as the basis for all of the N1’s stages. It was a three-stage beast using several of the NK-9s. The total mass of Korolev’s GR-1 project was 117 tons, carrying a 2.2 megaton warhead. It would have been accurate to within 3 miles. The third proposal originated with Mikhail K. Yangelis’ R-36-0, approved for development on April 16, 1962. Yangelis based his orbital weapon on the existing design of his R-36 super heavyweight ICBM (NATO called it the SS-9). The –0 variant was a multi-stage missile using storable hypergolic fuels of nitrogen tetroxide and unsymmetrical dimethyl hydrazine. The first stage used a single RD-251 engine actually composed of three twin-chambered RD-250 engines for a total thrust of 241 tons. The second stage used a single RD-250 with 96 tons of ‘oomph.’ The third stage consisted of a guidance section, a retro-rocket and the warhead. The whole contraption was 108 feet long and weighed 180 tons fully fueled. In 1965, the Soviet Strategic Rocket Forces (RSVN) conducted a study to determine the best proposal. Although all three designers had produced hardware, none had yet flown. During the study, Yangelis’ project was chosen as the most promising and work on the other two was stopped. Korolev, however, did continue to work on his GR-1’s third stage, using it as the basis for the upper stage on the N1 and Proton boosters. Having won the design competition, Yangelis was under the gun to make it work. One of the keys to making the rocket perform its deadly mission was the third stage. The instrument section contained an autonomous inertial navigation system, but because of the ‘drift’ inherent in gyroscopic instruments, the system was supplemented by a radar altimeter that would aid the trajectory at two points; once at the start of the orbit and the second just prior to de-orbit burn. The reentry vehicle tipped the scales at 3,000 lbs with an explosive yield in the 2-3 megaton range. Part of the mass of the vehicle included the retro-rocket. That engine used a single chamber RD-854 engine packing 7.7 tons of thrust. It was used to change the plane of the vehicle from an orbital trajectory to a ballistic one. Four nozzles on the sides used bleed thrust from the main chamber yawed the vehicle and four additional corner-mounted thrusters provided pitch control. Testing and Operations The R-36-0 was tested from both aboveground launch facilities at the Tyura-Tam missile range and from in-ground launch silos. The in-ground system was to be the basing mode for the missile. At Tyura-Tam, the 2d Testing Directorate led a series of test launches beginning in December 1965. The table below gives the launch designation, if known, the date, and the CIA assessment of the shot. Designation Date Comments 1 Dec 16, 1965 inertial nav. system malfunction 2 Feb 5, 1965 retrorocket malfunction 3 Mar 16, 1966 fire on launch pad 4 May 20, 1966 successful, apogee of 136 miles 5 Sep 18, 1966 first silo launch, failed during second stage 6 Nov 2, 1966 same as Sep 18 launch attempt 7 Kosmos-139 Jan 25, 1967 success, reentry vehicle impacted at Kapustin Yar test range 8 Mar 22, 1967 failure 9 Kosmos-160 May 17, 1967 successful 10 Kosmos-169 Jul 17, 1967 successful 11 Kosmos-170 Jul 31, 1967 successful 12 Kosmos-171 Aug 8, 1967 successful 13 Kosmos-178 Sep 19, 1967 successful 14 Kosmos-179 Sep 22, 1967 successful 15 Kosmos-183 Oct 18, 1967 successful 16 Kosmos-187 Oct 28, 1967 missed target by 7 miles 17 Kosmos-218 Apr 25, 1968 successful 18 May 21, 1968 successful 19 May 28, 1968 successful 20 Kosmos-244 Oct 2, 1968 successful, first operational missile test launch 21 Kosmos-298 Sep 15, 1969 successful operational test 22 Kosmos-354 Jul 23, 1970 successful operational test 23 Kosmos-365 Sep 25, 1970 successful operational test 24 Kosmos-433 Aug 8, 1971 successful operational test According to declassified CIA documents, the FOBS mission profile consisted of three phases: 1) launch, 2) coast, and 3) reentry. Prior to launch, the system was targeted while in its silo and cannot use external tracking or guidance after launch. During launch, the SS-9 uses its first and second stages to reach orbit discarding each stage as its fuel empties. The orbit was generally along a near polar orbital path with an inclination of 49.6°. Arriving from the Southern Hemisphere, this would put the warhead on track to hit targets in the central US; a little higher inclination would get the warhead to West Coast targets, a little lower would hit the East Coast. During the coast phase and just prior to reentry, the vehicle initiates a pitch maneuver to reorient itself for reentry. During the reentry phase, the retro-rocket fires for one minute, changing the plane of flight from orbital to ballistic. After the retro-rocket fires, the warhead separates from the vehicle and continues on its trajectory until impact. The launch schedules matched US expectations of a test period to get the system configured (1965-1966) followed by the robust schedule of preparing crews for operations (Jan-Oct 1967). The six-month gap between most subsequent launches fits the profile of an operational system getting a workout for crew training. Indeed, US ICBM launches followed somewhat the same pattern during the 1960s and 1970s. Eighteen operational silos were constructed west of Tyur-Tam. The first officially operational unit was RSVN unit 21422 under the command of Lt Col Eng. A. V. Mieyev, activated on August 25, 1969. Two more battalions joined the first and eventually comprised the 98th Missile Brigade. US Assessment of FOBS FOBS was never assessed as a precision weapon since the circular error probable (CEP – circle in at least 50% of the bombs are expected hit a fixed point) was more than three miles. It wouldn’t be used to destroy hardened US ICBM silos or other protected sites. Instead, the US strategic planners and policy makers thought the more likely FOBS use would be as a ‘pathfinder’ to take out command and control centers like the numerous sites in Washington, DC – the White House, Pentagon, etc. Much like a World War II fighter sweeping enemy aircraft before the bombers come through, the FOBS would take out the ability to launch the retaliatory strike that was sure to come if ICBMs were detected. Because of the interest in the US of more accurate, smaller warheads versus the often times ‘bigger is better’ thought of Khrushchev and a greater reliance on the manned bomber, the US never seriously pursued a nuclear orbital weapon system. (See X-20 DynaSoar sidebar) Also, the thought of a nuclear weapon coming down accidentally was politically more dangerous to US leaders than their Soviet counterparts. By the time of the Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty (SALT) II of 1972 and the emergence of the submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM) as a safer, stealthier, means of launching nuclear weapons from different areas than over the North Pole, the FOBS weapon was nearing its finale. Although never ratified by the US, but abided by both superpowers, SALT II specifically mentioned the SS-9 FOB system as one marked for deactivation. Additionally, 12 of the 18 silos had to be destroyed and the others converted to different use. By 1982, the RVSN began dismantling the R-36-0 launch installations and retiring the missiles. By February 1983 the last missile was pulled from its silo and in May 1984, the last silo destroyed. Aftermath So unless Hollywood is on to some secret that remains undiscovered, no satellites orbit overhead with the capability to rain mass death and destruction on an unsuspecting populace. Thankfully, both the USSR and the US stepped back from the fallacy of placing nukes in space. Now if we can only find another good space movie, we’re all set. SIDEBAR – American Nuclear Weapons in Space In the 1950s and early 1960s, the U.S Air Force made a strong run to be the space force for America. As part of that attempt, they proposed a reusable spaceplane, the X-20 DynaSoar (Dynamic Soaring) designed for military use. Unlike the concurrent X-15 research program, the X-20 was intended to become an operational system, conducting space missions ranging from reconnaissance, satellite inspection and repair, orbital resupply, and bombardment. The third version of the X-20 would use a Titan IIIC rocket booster and have an orbital capability. This version would contain a bomb bay for delivering nuclear warheads requiring precise targeting and the ability to approach a target from any direction. Deciding against placing nuclear weapons in space the Department of Defense cancelled the first test version of the X-20 less than a year before testing was to have begun in 1964.
  19. Surely, today's generation with the gee-whiz electronics as part of the standard cell phone/tricorder/portable Death Star package can do something updated.
  20. Man, I knew it was cold in space, but this thread is approaching absolute zero as well!
  21. On the current "I only want to be a pilot" thread, there are a couple of dudes with four generations of military flying. One of the things that adds to the growing divide between the military and the general civilian population is a lack of familiarity with the military. Related to that is the anecdotal evidence of sons/daughters of military dudes following in those footsteps. So my question (I'd post a poll if I could figure it out) is how many generations of military flying do you have? If you are the first, what fired you up to pursue your vocation (Doesn't have to be the guy/gal driving, anybody who straps in would be welcome). If a succeeding generation, why did you follow those steps? For me, my dad was enlisted in the USAAF, then USAF, then went aviation cadets in 1952, flew various SAC tankers including the -135A when it was new (something significant that we still the -135 albeit in the -R model guise). Uncle was a USAAF GCI operator in the Pacific in WWII - invasions of Bougainville and the Philippines. I posted part of his story in the History Friday thread about GCI in the Southwest Pacific story. My oldest brother started out as an Army medic, got commissioned, retired LTC MI type. I didn't have the eyes (as well as, probably, the eye-hand skills to make it in the time allotted), so wound up as a weapons controller (ABM now) on E-3s and E-8s. Retired now. Anyone else? Anyone? Bueller?
  22. My post (damn work getting in the way and having to stop mid-post to deal with pesky bosses) was meant to be online prior to M2's clarification otherwise I wouldn't have bothered as I was obviously wrong. I would differ on the appropriateness of opinions expressed here vs. the 'real world' but as it's not my site and I'm not a mod, I will play nice and follow the 'guidance.' Can I say hypothetically that a congresswoman from California is scary and a socialist? Can I say that I'm glad of one thing from this election, namely that this should be the final stake in Hillary's further political ambition? Obama will be on the Democratic ticket next time and he doesn't need her for any cabinet posts, so given that she'll be 70+ by 2016, the reign of the Bubbas might finally be over. Can I say that? Please?
  23. I didn't take the opener as applying to baseops, but rather a skull's up to not get carried away in the 'real world.'
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