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I'll try to explain: I'm not talking about Palace chase type programs. Look, you volunteered to serve for your ADSC, if you don't have a humanitarian/medical reason for getting out early, you're trying to renege on your end of the deal, and that's not cool. It's also not cool for the AF to renege on their end of the deal (rotc recat, tami21, stoploss etc). Is it widely viewed as acceptable behavior in ARC/airlines/non-flying civilian orgs/real graduate schools to not keep your word? Ways to get out early: fail PT tests, commit a crime, refuse a deployment, malinger, violate a sufficient number of standards over time, choose not to upgrade from wingman or copilot, bust lots of check rides or cheat on tests, take leave in Colorado and smoke dope, say something lewd and degrading to fellow airmen in every staff meeting, etc. All of those ways will result in discipline first, then a less-than-glowing OPR on your way out the door. Now, to what audience will such an OPR be appealing and amusing? This line of thinking is one of the effects of being a dumbass. You're right, there is life after the AF, and it comes quickly...so serve ably and professionally as you agreed to, take advanatge of the opportunities presented to you, always take care of your airmen, then press on to ARC or NASA or corporate or blogger land or wherever with the admiration and gratitude of your fellow airmen. If you're so unsatisfied as to need to change careers right now, go read up on how to separate, then resign your commission in writing to your commander, take whatever lumps come your way and move on. Look at any board's stats: DPs are never 100% promoted...its always 98-99%. Usually, that's due to stuff in the record that occurs late in the cycle like new article 15 or criminal indictment, or don't promote me letters, or occasionally, a record that doesn't justify a the DP but the SR gave it to him anyway. These situations are NOT common and you'd know it if you were in one of them. Similarly, once in a while there is a DNP that gets promoted. They will value things the board doesnt, or vice versa. Hypothetical Example: a rescue officer was APZ with no strats on a weak DNP PRF. But, on his poorly written OPRs, he had 14 saves, 9 in combat, a BSM with valor, and two purple hearts, and fairly normal line career progression (but no schoolhouse, or exec or aide or staff tours), and was in a stressed career field. His 2nd to most recent OPR was a referral for off base DUI (and the reason for the DNP), but the LOR & rebuttal in the record confirmed he only got a reckless driving citation, not a DUI. The board valued his experiences, recognized the rehabilitative nature of the discipline he received (good OPR after the bad one) and scored him much higher than the SR obviously did, and he made the list. The board thought his experiences would lead to him being a very effective future combat and peacetime leader of airmen. This kind of situation is also not common. There's a lot more to the board process than just a quick look at the PRF, which is merely a recommendation by the SR. Every OPR, every medal citation, every document in the record is read and assessed. Variances in scores between panel members are verbally discussed...sometimes for a very long time...I remember one that we tabled twice during the day and probably spent close to an hour discussing late into the evening. We spend two weeks doing this process, and get pretty good at assessing future potential from the records. Finally, I'd prefer if you asked questions, but keep throwing spears and making snide comments if you want--it's a flyers God-given right after all. My skin is thick. I'm happy with my performance and career path and results, and I thought some of you might find these perspectives useful. LJ

Argo, are you going to provide any counter-argument, or just lurk in the shadows and down vote every post that doesn't fit the desired narrative? Standard SJW response is to yell and act offended while offering no logical reason for doing so. Our country has created a generation of retards. https://youtu.be/9IEFD_JVYd0

Still current Boldface & Ops.pdf Blank Boldface & Ops.pdf Edit: I second HU&W's advice on gouge. Work together and make your own. If you do use gouge, I would only use it if it's as recent as the class or two prior to yours. Even then, be sure to verify the info is accurate and current as material changes often. Also, don't try to game the system and study too far ahead. Just focus on "the next thing that will kill you". If you haven't started Phase 1 yet then you should definitely only worry about the BF/OLs. Initially you'll want to be able to fill out a BF in your sleep. Before long you will need to know better than just filling in the blank. Know it so well that if someone asks you something out of order or backwards you can answer immediately. For example don't just memorize the crosswind limitations as "25, 10, 5, 20, 15, 10, 40", know that if someone asks what the 5kt crosswind limit is, you can recall Icy Runway.

I think that is part of the intended experience. Considering that the training requires so much persistence to succeed, it is doing everybody a favor by making it a little bit of a challenge to get in contact with the right people to get your foot in the door. The people that can't be bothered to find the necessary information and break through on their own probably wouldn't be well suited for training. I'd imagine that posting posting POC info for a unit without their consent is sort of circumnavigating their hiring process slightly.

Looks like it's time to bring in the buff and clean up WW2 style. Carpet bombs for all my friends.

Best advice I ever got. Work together with your flight/class to make your own gouge. Old gouge will get you killed, or even hooked. Listen to the previous advice about BF/OL when you get them. The program's structured to give anyone that is smart enough to be there enough time to learn it. It doesn't get easier as you go on.

I thought that was just standard for that side of this argument. "You don't want women in line combat roles because of any number of legitimate reasons and my rebuttal is Sexism! Sexism!

You should be able to perfectly memorize the boldface & ops limits in 1-2 days. You'll be given this information when you get a stack of pubs and TOs when you begin. Fill out blank BF & OL until you could do so in your sleep. Once you've got that down start studying the for whatever academic test you've got next. You'll have plenty of time during the academics phase, you just have to make effective use of it. Before your class starts, enjoy the free time because you won't have much once you start.

I disagree on one point. Not getting promoted does not mean the same thing and reneging on the contract (even if that is the end goal). You don't need to get promoted for the AF to keep you in, they can continue you should they choose. Forcing promotion on someone who doesn't want it is silly, and only an organization that habitually mismanages personnel through stubbornness and inexperience could fail to recognize that. If you don't want people with bright futures sabotaging their careers, ask yourself why the system is making them that way, and fix it. Or don't. The nice thing about the military is that very, very few leaders are ever truly accountable for their organizational management decisions.

So, are women now denied federal loans if they don't register in the Selective Service?

All Female PJ crew? I'm willing to take one for the team.

I always found that argument insulting and condescending. I've heard it enough that it's clear that it's taught at some version of O-5 charm school.

True. But at the time, my opinion was the one that mattered... The board didn't see any fit test scores themselves...but we saw OPRs. But the ramifications of a failure after OPR closeout (lor, etc) could probably be referenced on the PRF if the SR wanted to. Look, if folks are trying to get out prior to their ADSC by "failing to get promoted x2" there are many ways...but none of them reflect well on you to any audience.

the idea is that getting passed over for promotion will allow one to separate from AD earlier than their current ADSC, and that getting hired by ARC units is easier as an O-3 than an O-4, O-4 than O-5, etc... where you'll just get promoted anyway without as much of the silly AD games. That, and getting a seniority number sooner rather than later can be huge for those so inclined. Either way, it's indicative of how toxic AD AF is that pilots would consider writing a do-not-promote letter. I wonder how much that happens at healthy organizations.

I know that isn't what you said, but I laughed anyway. :)

This thread needs some humor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4FIo89Ll4E

Touche. Wg/CC stratted me top 5 percent. MLR deemed me bottom 40 percent. Makes sense. Good system.

I am so offended by the usage of the word retard. I prefer to be called mentally handicapped, mentally challenged, or dumbass.