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If that's the case, then it's only a matter of time before the Eagle mafia takes over again.

I remember lots of guys back in 2003-2004 who couldn't wait to "get into the fight". It was the same talk about wanting to fly their aircraft into the combat situation they were trained to operate in. Many of these same guys were in the long line that went around the corner of the MPF at midnight with their VSP package in hand in 2006. The new guys who showed up at units in 2006 who were full of the same piss and vinegar were bitching about who was and wasn't eligible for this last round of VSP/RIFs. And the thing is... I don't blame these guys for a second for wanting to get out. The same guys who were Sq/CC's and DO's back then that were telling the guy who was TDY for 270 days that year with 700 combat hrs that he didn't get a strat on his OPR because he didn't plan the Christmas Party or have a Masters yet are now Wing CC's and 1 Stars... That includes 3 of my former Sq CC's and DO's. They supported this shoe clerk mentality with vigor back then... do you honestly think that anything will change because a bunch of B-2s from Guam and Navy cruise missiles beat up another kid from the same neighborhood for a week or so? The sock checks might go away for that same week or so, but that's about it. I don't know anyone that signed up for this who wouldn't be ready to go if the flag was raised. I can probably speak for a good number of us who have been playing since day one that didn't VSP or get out when their commitment was up... If deploying "again" is your thing, please contact the 365 shop and the AEF Center and let them know you are an avid volunteer! Until then, I'm not sure I'd be calling into question the commitment of those guys who are just now getting to know their 6 and 7 year old kids or having to travel across the country just to see them after their divorce when they decide that Southwest or FedEx may be a better option than reflective belt checks at the Deid.

BQZip's mom is gonna get a MAJCOM-level strat!

Ran across this yesterday: https://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123314316 You can check out e-copies of books from the AF library (including Kindle versions of some books) for free. Of note, they have all the CSAF reading list books (to include Unbroken) on the site. Looks like a pretty good resource.

Actually, that's not what you said. If I don't ever have to put on a tan flight suit again and go back to any shithole in that part of the world then it will be too soon! With that being said, if the boss says it's time to go then I am ready, willing and able to deploy. But no, deploying again isn't my thing... am I supposed to get out by your standards or should I continue to use my 10+ yrs of combat time and experience to teach these new kids how to employ their MWS in combat so they are ready when and if their number is called? When I'm flying with a young kid in our mission ready program and they say they just want get through it as soon as possible so they can get out there and fly combat missions I think that is great, but I always tell them the same thing at the end of the debrief. Good job today, now go home and put some steaks on the grill, drink a few good beers, and bang the wife... because if you're in such a rush to get into the fight then you won't be at your house doing any of those for a while... and if you're lucky there won't be some other dude at your house while you're gone doing that either!

Well consider yourself luckier than many who don't have those kids and that wife around anymore because of what we have been doing for the past decade. What I am saying is that there are plenty of guys who have been in 16-18 years that have been living every minute of this for the past 11 years. When some 25 yr old kid shows up from Luke, Seymour, Little Rock or Altus says he can't wait to get into the fight I think that's great... but be careful what you wish for. You saying that the guys who have been doing this every day for the past 11 yrs that don't want to spend their last few years back in a tent because the FNG hasn't dropped a bomb yet should get out then you are speaking for what I would think is a VERY small minority... and you certainly aren't speaking for anyone that I know. BTW... my kids don't care if I'm sleeping on the side of a mountain 20 miles outside of the FOB or if I'm at the Deid or Masas getting stopped by a MSgt on the way to the pisser because my PT shirt isn't tucked in... they care that I missed their birthday AGAIN and that I wasn't at their school play AGAIN.

You make movies long enough, something like this happens.

Whew!!! I thought it would have been much worse...

he couldn't hack it.

Depends if the Orderly Room is up and running.

Anyone read Adm McRaven's book "Spec Ops"?

Finally got a form of reprieve. Previous C-130 AC, non-vol'd to RPA in '08 to Cannon, never met the crossflow because I graduated Pred IQT a month and a half after the deadline. Just got a RIP for MC-12W's Beale for permanent party. I was hoping to be the first guy to return to the Herc but apparently that option is not availabe.

Today's second go belonged to the Bold Tigers.