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Don't expect or look for the dog treat from the outside community. Look for it within and develop it from within. Make it where you "don't talk about Fight Club." Look at the number of GOs wearing spwings/cyber/missile badges compared to just a generation past. Not to mention a "Space Command" and a "Cyber Command." Don't worry about others and their debrief if they aren't in your fight. It just rewards them and makes you look needy. You don't need the validation of the "cool kids." F'in' stop the Chinese/Russians/international crooks from taking down our systems without them having to anything that requires a "boom," yet would be devestating to our way of life - financial, power grids, etc. And have the way to do it to them if turns ugly and/or we decide to get serious about this sh1t. And put some frickin' lasers on sharks already...

Dude, most of the CAF gets what Space provides. So much so that there are briefings given about what would happen if all our space assets went away and it isn't pretty. I think you're letting your chip get the better of you, I will happily mock a space dork about being a dork but I know what he actually provides and I am grateful for his efforts. More on line with this thread, you guys need to be allowed to develop your own culture that rewards excellence. The WIC model is a damn good one, but you guys need to make it fit your world. Only you guys can really figure out how to make it work but I don't think wearing flight suits will really help.

Well you aren't going to earn any respect by whining like a little bitch. By the way, some of us do know plenty about space. What's your point here? Do you know much about SEAD? Or CAS? Or OCA? Fact: I know a fuck of a lot more about your job than you know about mine. Why is it that space and cyber dudes always cry that no one understands the nitty gritty of what they do when 1) if you ask, they "can't tell you" anyway and 2) they don't truly know jack and/or shit about the nitty gritty of what anyone else does either.

In my squadron I expect every single person on flight status who shows up to be prepared to fly. We wear flight suits every day, inlcuding Mondays. I may require you on a moment's notice to go out to the flightline because it's your J.O.B. You better be dressed appropriately, and no I will not wait for you to go to the locker room and change.

You went to college in Space? I was asked in an ANG interview why missileers wear flightsuits. I told him I had no idea why (at the time I didn't) and that it seemed ridiculous to me which he took to mean I hated my job and was shitting on my own people. Another guy from the same unit on the very same day was giving me shit for missileers wearing flight suits and that we didn't "deserve" the leather jackets (whatever the ###### that means). I realized that most missileers don't care except for the convenience factor and the pilots that complained about it were just whiny bitches. That's about as far as the argument needs to go.

I laughed then realized that all these people are probably getting promoted well ahead of me. Don't care as long as big blue lets me fly her airplanes!

Of all of the jets I've refueled the BUFF is one of my favorites. Last fall I was in a four-ship of -135s refueling a four-ship of BUFFs. If that wasn't cool enough, there was a four-ship of tankers and BUFFs ahead of us and a four-ship of tankers and BUFFs behind us. It was pretty bad ass to have 24 jets going through the same airspace in about a two hour time span. The airliners were asking about all the TCAS hits so center started vectoring them over to watch. It is flights like that where you forget about OPRs, SOS, and all of the other crap at the office.

Can you make me a sandwich?

I would like to welcome you to the world of the Shoe. Where they're so bored from making us do their jobs for them that they actually have time to put serious effort into this shit.

The following may come across as naive, but I still refuse to accept it as standard. I can't believe that, in a time of constant war and budget cuts, that anyone in our Air Force can afford to spend one single brain byte on anything other than doing their job or thinking about how to directly improve it. Take time for your family, take time off, but don't FOD-out your actual workplace with bullshit like fundraisers and organized socials.

No, that was whining. Big time.

She was able to hide a sharpened stick in one hand while performing oral? You would think her kidnapper would have corrected her poor technique.

Noted. You're a student. I wasn't talking to you. I don't give a shit how well he can teach TP stalls. He needs some peer mentoring over his little newsletter.

Too passive. I suggest one of two different responses. 1 - Slightly less passive. Create an Outlook rule that auto-forwards any message with CGOC in the title to the CGOC distro list. Get a buddy to do the same. First time you get an email it will ping-pong back and forth between the two of you with the entire CGOC as innocent bystanders. 2 - Much less passive: Respond. A dude I know took the same route of "Please take me off your emails" and got the same response of "You're a CGO and you need to receive these bla bla bla." So when the email came out letting all the CGOs know that the CGOC was going to be meeting at 3:30 for some cookies and punch in the club, he hit reply all and said, "Hey guys, this sounds awesome, I'll be there! Then he waited 6-9 minutes and hit reply all again with, "Oh darnit, I just got scheduled to fly, won't be able to make it." Then he waited another 6-9 minutes and replied all, "Hey, turns out the line got cancelled, I'll be there! "Gosh - I got put into a sim!" "Somebody else is going to take my sim!" "Crud, I have to close the vault." "Hey, we just closed the vault, are you guys still meeting?" He was removed the next day.

Spent my night in jail for it.

This was sent out base-wide earlier this week...JUST in case you were planning to attend.... ---------------- CGOCs, In this austere fiscal environment, we are all being asked to do our part and try to reduce travel costs whenever possible. While the Air Force CGOC believes that no matter the fiscal environment, we need not forget the professional development needs of our junior force, we also must face the reality that the attendance minimums needed to meet our financial obligations for an annual conference are just not likely to be met this year. In that light, we have cancelled the 2012 Air Force CGO Professional Development Conference, originally scheduled to be held this May in Seattle, WA. We have been trying to find a way to make it work, but feel it is best to look for alternative means to provide Air Force-wide, CGO-focused, professional development opportunities for this year. The Joint Base Lewis-McChord (JBLM) team did a fantastic job of pulling together resources and creating a quality program, and we want to publically thank them for all their efforts. Luckily, they are able to transform many of their events into opportunities for local personnel, so if you are near JBLM this May, you may want to consider looking into what they have to offer. The Air Force CGOC will be looking for ways to continue to provide the excellent professional development and networking opportunities that we have become known for. If you have any ideas, we would love to hear from you! Please remember, an investment in a junior officer's professional growth IS an investment in their local mission, as well as the Air Force mission. Networking internal and external to their immediate career field, a better understanding of strategic initiatives, leadership lessons and exposures to new missions and ways of doing business are invaluable tools in making our Air Force mission succeed. The Air Force CGOC will work hard to ensure we continue to provide these opportunities to you in the future. Please contact us with any ideas or questions. Chairman, AFCGOC