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On 4/11/2019 at 1:30 PM, matmacwc said:

 I think the straight to Beale thing is a fairly new AF thing 

Yes, 2Lt's coming to fly the T-38 at Beale is definitely a new change.  I personally see this as a unique data point that will only be repeated if a lot of variables are all met... i.e. I believe it is very unlikely to happen again.  

I don't believe it is the "good deal" everyone seems to think it is for the guy, but I'm sure he will enjoy the experience.  

Going back over 30 years, I can only think of 3 CTP-only pilots that decided to interview for the U-2.  All three were accepted.  Two made it through U-2 training.  (There may be a fourth but I can't remember at this late hour).  

All three had MWS backgrounds prior to going to T-38 PIT.  One of the three I met on a recruiting trip.  He was very interested in applying for the U-2 but already had orders to be a T-38 UPT instructor.  We were able to get his orders changed to Beale instead, with the hope that he would fly the T-38 two years and then interview.  That's what happened, and he's had a pretty good career to include a tour as a U-2 flying squadron commander.  

We had a former CTP-only T-38 instructor that left Beale not too long ago, and he's on this forum.  Maybe he will chime in with his thoughts. 

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Exec Summary: The Dragonlady community and it's leadership is fantastic. These LTs are going to have to show up, hold the standard and keep it high without the traditional UPT overwatch. 

Beale and the 1RS is a tremendous opportunity in an awesome community, there is no doubt about it. I understand the world is a new weird place with innovation officers and VR (of which the 1RS has a really cool set up for teaching the deuce) instead of UPT sorties, so I'm not surprised that they're trying some new things here. Really, they'd be the first to do anything, thats what makes the U2 community so great, it's small enough that their hand-picked guys get to affect change, with leadership that trusts from top to bottom, unequivocally.

The tough part for these Lt's is that their job at Beale is to hold the standard in an A Model -38, in a community of professional pilots with thousands of hours, not within the constraints of a highly controlled UPT environment. It will not be easy to do that as an Lt, it wasn't as a Capt. They're going to have to be self reliant, and be ready to hold the line. 

In terms of staying in the community, having a home grown U2 guy come up through the ranks sounds great for everyone, if the dude doesn't want to stay (and he/she wasn't a total waste) Beale takes care of it's people. Whether it's a sarcastic ass with a mustache, or any number of folks who got hired and couldn't make it through training. They try and get people to where they are going within their sphere of influence. 

I'm the wrong guy to answer what any of it means career wise, I had plenty of opportunities to check off job titles, and even lead some awesome airmen. I could see a future with some hybrid of this program, kind of a 2+2 type deal. UPT gets it's pound of flesh, the 1RS gets more seasoned guys who have more years to learn about the Deuce and want to commit. If anyone knows these cats and wants to push them my way with questions, feel free. 

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13 hours ago, Cobra-809 said:

May 17, 2019 Drop night at KDLF

Classes 19-10 and 19-16

 

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Now that’s a spread. Lots of diversity on the MAF side. 

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CAFB Drop 19-10/16 Active Duty

T-1s

AC-130W Cannon
C-5 Travis
C-146 Duke
C-17 x 4 (Elmendorf, Hickam, McChord, McGuire)
C-130J Dyess
E-3 Tinker
KC-135 x 4 (2 x McConnell, Fairchild, Scott)
KC-10 x 2 (McConnell)
RC-135 Offutt
T-6 FAIP Columbus
U-28 Hurlburt

T-38s

A-10
B-52
F-16 x 2
F-35 
T-38 FAIP Columbus

There were some guard/reserve drops to March ARB, Charleston, Kelly and a couple more I can't remember

 

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On 5/17/2019 at 7:47 PM, Cobra-809 said:

May 17, 2019 Drop night at KDLF

Classes 19-10 and 19-16

 

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Please let the ones headed to Kirtland know that they’ll be MC-J and not on the Chariot of Armageddon. They get trained exclusively at HRT if they’re headed that direction.

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1 hour ago, ThreeHoler said:

What is up with the dude going to JB MyDickHurts with no airplane?


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Based off the shitty formatting of the slide (are aligned columns that difficult?) I would guess the same person screwed up and forgot to type C-17 in. 

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I’m guessing there was a theme, but what a shitty choice of fonts.  If one of the studs formatted these slides, he/she needs to just skip the FTU and go direct to a junior exec job in the ops squadron. He needs to learn what the AF truly values in its pilots. 

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23 hours ago, McJay Pilot said:

Please let the ones headed to Kirtland know that they’ll be MC-J and not on the Chariot of Armageddon. They get trained exclusively at HRT if they’re headed that direction.

Rog. 

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Columbus 19-17/18

T-1s
C-2 JASDF
C-5 Dover
C-12 Elmendorf
C-17 x 7 (Hickam, McChord, Dover, Charleston, McGuire, ANG)
C-130H x 3 (ANG, JASDF)
C-130J x2 (Dyess, Little Rock)
KC-10 Travis
KC-135x 5 (McConnell, AL/MS/Iowa ANG, Mildenhall)
LC-130 ANG
T-1 FAIP
T-6 FAIP
 

T-38s
F-2 JASDF
F-15SA x 2 RSAF
Typhoon x 2 RSAF
F-16 x 4
T-38 FAIP
T-6 FAIP

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KEND 19-17/19-18 (tried to filter out ANG/AFRC)

T-1
KC-135 Kadena
KC-135 Fairfield x2
KC-135 McConnell
KC-135 MacDill
C-21 Scott
T-6 FAIP x2
T-1 FAIP
C-17 Charleston
C-17 JBLM
C-17 Elmo x2
C-17 McGuire x2
C-17 Dover
RC-135 Rivet Joint Offutt

T-38
F-16 Luke x3
F-15E Seymour Johnson
T-6 FAIP
B-52 Barksdale
F-15C Kingsley Field

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Been a while. Here's the last few from ENJJPT.
 
Shep 19-05
USAF
F-15E SJ
C-130J ANG
B-2 ANG
B-52 Barksdale
F-16 TBD
F-15C Fresno ANG
F-16 TBD
T-38C FAIP
F-35
F-15C Jacksonville ANG
A-10C 
 
Internationals 
Eurofighter 
Eurofighter
Eurofighter
T-38C FAIP (German)
F-16 Netherlands
F-16 Netherlands
F-16 Netherlands
F-16 Turkey 
 
Shep 19-06
A-10C
B-2
B-52
B-52
B-52
B-52
EC-130
F-15E
F-16 TBD
F-16 TBD
F-16 TBD
F-16 TBD
F-16 TBD
F-22A
F-35A
F-35A Vermont ANG
T-6 FAIP
T-38 FAIP Vance (join spouse)
T-38 FAIP
T-38 FAIP (Canadian)
CF-18
 
19-07
A-10 DM
F-15C Kingsley
F-15E x2 SJ
F-16 TBD
F-22 Eglin
F-35 Luke
T-6 Sheppard AFB
T-38 Sheppard AFB
B-52 x4
F-15C x2 Portland ANG
F-16 Miami ANG
F-16 SCANG
KC-10 Reserves (No, really)
F-16 x3 Netherlands

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On 6/20/2019 at 10:29 AM, dmginc said:

No.  There's an AD training unit there.

No, they’re not an active duty unit. They’re a guard unit that runs the Eagle ftu.

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5 hours ago, FoolMeTwice said:
KC-10 Reserves (No, really)

Just goes to show that it doesn't hurt to ask.

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4 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

No, they’re not an active duty unit. They’re a guard unit that runs the Eagle ftu.

There is an AD FTU squadron attached as an active associate.

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21 hours ago, FoolMeTwice said:
 
T-38 FAIP (Canadian)
 

Is this a first for Canada?  Granted I didn't go thru Shep but everyone I talked to from there made it seem like mostly Germans/US got FAIPed

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KEND 19-19

38's:
B-52 Barksdale
F-16 Luke
F-22 Eglin

T-1's:
C-17 McGuire
C-17 McChord
C-130J Little Rock
C-5 Travis
B-52 Barksdale
KC-10 McGuire
KC-135 Mildenhall
T-6 FAIP
T-1 FAIP

19-20

38's:
B-52 Barksdale
F-15 Seymour Johnson
A-10 DM

T-1's:
C-17 McChord
C-17 Travis
KC-135 Fairchild
KC-135 Kadena
RC-135 Offutt
C-130J Little Rock

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2 hours ago, tx_flyer said:

What's the story behind the Toner stud getting a BUFF? Can't say I've ever seen that before...

It happens every blue moon or so, (almost?) always a join spouse deal. From what I've heard the studs do just fine in the ftu. 

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