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The B-52 community flying with the Raider callsign probably really struck a nerve with the Doolittle Raiders because several of their bros ended up executed in China...what a slap in the face to those

I'm sorry man, but history is full of callsigns (especially from WW 'Nam) of men and women who paid the ultimate price while flying their war chariots, both in battle and while training for battle. I

If the new Raider squadron doesn't find a way to work "Bomby McBomerface" into a Friday patch or something they have failed from the start.

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31 minutes ago, Azimuth said:

Corrosion is going to take out the BUFF, much like it’s taking out the KC-135. You can dump all the money into newer avionics, engines, etc, but you’ll never beat time with regard to airframe age.

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/s of course

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4 hours ago, LookieRookie said:

Ship of Theseus with SLEP

Ok, I’ll admit I had to look that one up.  For those that don’t go to Wikipedia...

Theseus's paradox, is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally ugly.

If you need a stand-off platform, just stop the weird skin and materials MX on the B-2. The RCS will still be better than the other bombers, it’s nuke capable, gets good gas mileage and is younger than some of the people who work on it.

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As much as I love the Buff...I can't believe at some point we did not opt for relatively off the shelf modded out 757 or something similiar to be a cruise missile truck.  The Navy kinda-sorta did it with turning a 737 into a P-8.  Why not us?

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As much as I love the Buff...I can't believe at some point we did not opt for relatively off the shelf modded out 757 or something similiar to be a cruise missile truck.  The Navy kinda-sorta did it with turning a 737 into a P-8.  Why not us?


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Wasnt there a program in the 70s or 80s that had the 747 basically being a cruise missile dump truck? With a good launch system I wonder how many missiles a 747-8 can carry? Probably between a ton and shitload. 

Edit: Cant say the word Duck

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5 hours ago, 08Dawg said:

As much as I love the Buff...I can't believe at some point we did not opt for relatively off the shelf modded out 757 or something similiar to be a cruise missile truck.  The Navy kinda-sorta did it with turning a 737 into a P-8.  Why not us?

Wouldn’t you be unemployed then?

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6 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

 


The Ghost of Curtis LeMay.

 

Quoted for truth.  From what I heard people say in certain STRATCOM/bomber command meetings I would've sworn there were times He had a seat at the table.

 

Survivability = standoff > speed > stealth

The price of admission to A2AD requires all of the above + (s) x (c)2  

B-21 will be a formidable part of that equation...as will the BUFF that picks up the last B-21 crew after dropping off the last B-21 at AMARG.

 

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10 hours ago, 08Dawg said:

As much as I love the Buff...I can't believe at some point we did not opt for relatively off the shelf modded out 757 or something similiar to be a cruise missile truck.  The Navy kinda-sorta did it with turning a 737 into a P-8.  Why not us?

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Not the first time that was thought of. 

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On 2/21/2018 at 1:10 PM, Azimuth said:

Corrosion is going to take out the BUFF, much like it’s taking out the KC-135. You can dump all the money into newer avionics, engines, etc, but you’ll never beat time with regard to airframe age.

That's why God invented the CNC machine. I don't think there is much original sheetmetal or castings on a KC-135.

 

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As much as I love the Buff...I can't believe at some point we did not opt for relatively off the shelf modded out 757 or something similiar to be a cruise missile truck.  The Navy kinda-sorta did it with turning a 737 into a P-8.  Why not us?

Too smart not complicated enough
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News update: B-21 is going to involve “complex trade-offs”.

None of this is surprising until you figure out they are building what the article says is a 2 engine jet with less thrust, range and payload. 

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30 minutes ago, SuperWSO said:

News update: B-21 is going to involve “complex trade-offs”.

None of this is surprising until you figure out they are building what the article says is a 2 engine jet with less thrust, range and payload. 

Inlet sizing is a big deal; that’s where Ben Rich initially made his money with Kelly Johnson on the U-2. 

But #notsurprised NG made a design/cost claim in bidding they hadn’t thought through and can’t back up. 

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13 hours ago, SurelySerious said:

But #notsurprised [insert company name here] made a design/cost claim in bidding they hadn’t thought through and can’t back up. 

SOP in the acquisition world.  Get your foot in the door and watch cost/schedule grow while performance goes down. 

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11 minutes ago, Lawman said:

 


So... 5th gen F-111F then?

 

Yes, but subsonic, internal carriage only, so less capable. 

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Yes, but subsonic, internal carriage only, so less capable. 

Go home Air Force... you’re drunk.

 

We shouldn’t really be surprised in the same military that thought the H-60 series of helicopter could replace and perform jobs done by significantly larger helicopters (SH-3, MH53, etc) and not lose anything in capability.

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5 hours ago, ThreeHoler said:

 


For all those times the external hard points were used on the B-1 (excluding the pod)?

 

Comparison was to the F-111. If it can carry 24x JASSM or JDAM internally, I’ll withdraw that statement.  If it is a 2 engine jet, it will probably carry less than the F-111.

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26 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

First question from skimming the article: Why did Australia have a beef with the Indonesians? 😂

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