Guest Ghost63 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 In the first of what may or may not be a weekly installment of the weirdest thing I heard at JSUPT this week, we have... TFOA - this is filed in lieu of a dropped object report you AF folks may have heard of. Acronym? You guessed it, Things Falling Off Aircraft. Simple and to the point, but somewhat entertaining nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herculean Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Crazy squids. I've learned that in the Navy you don't get double-turned you get "double-pumped," as in "Lt. Diggler double-pumped me like crazy yesterday!" I have to go up to the the third deck to get a Snickers from the geedunk and a sip from the scuttlebutt after a stop on the quarterdeck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter14 Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 Ahhh, the geedunk. I remember that term from Nav school. LT P-3 NFO: Where's the geedunk? 2Lt Scooter: :confused: Whaaaaaaat? NFO: The geedunk. Me: :confused: The whaaaaaat? NFO: The geedunk. You know, the geedunk. Me: :confused: The whaaaaat? This continued for a few more seconds because I had never heard that stupid word before and I didn't understand it. He didn't explain it, he just kept saying it. I guess I should have just said "Sir, I don't understand what the **** you are talking about" but 2Lt's ain't so sharp (whather or not I have become sharper is debatable.) I like the Navy way of taking a lot of big words and making them into smaller pieces and then jamming them all together to make one really long unintelligible word, like FAIRECONRON-1 (Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron One), but then calling it VQ-1 for even shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lovelacm Posted March 14, 2006 Share Posted March 14, 2006 I remember calling the water fountain as "the bubbler," whilest the conversation going on around the bubbler was scuttlebutt.. Anybody got a line on that? Don't forget to close the hatch, I've got to make a head call! Just don't make me stand watch again... in BLUES. Cheers! Linda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 BRAVO ZULU, I knew what it meant from my last first joint tour, but I had to Google it to find out where it comes from... Bravo Zulu is a naval signal, conveyed by flaghoist or voice radio, meaning "well done"; it has also passed into the spoken and written vocabulary. It can be combined with the "negative" signal, spoken or written NEGAT, to say "NEGAT Bravo Zulu," or "not well done." There are some myths and legends attached to this signal. The one most frequently heard has Admiral "Bull" Halsey sending it to ships of Task Force 38 during World War II. He could not have done this, since the signal did not exist at that time. "Bravo Zulu" actually comes from the Allied Naval Signal Book (ACP 175 series), an international naval signal code adopted after the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was created in 1949. Until then, each navy had used its own signal code and operational manuals. World War II experience had shown that it was difficult, or even impossible, for ships of different navies to operate together unless they could readily communicate, and ACP 175 was designed to remedy this. In the U.S. Navy signal code, used before ACP 175, "well done" was signaled as TVG, or "Tare Victor George" in the U.S. phonetic alphabet of that time. ACP 175 was organized in the general manner of other signal books, that is, starting with 1-flag signals, then 2-flag and so on. The 2-flag signals were organized by general subject, starting with AA, AB, AC, ... AZ, BA, BB, BC, ... BZ, and so on. The B- signals were called "Administrative" signals, and dealt with miscellaneous matters of administration and housekeeping. The last signal on the "Administrative" page was BZ, standing for "well done." At that time BZ was not rendered as "Bravo Zulu," but in each navy's particular phonetic alphabet. In the U.S. Navy, BZ was spoken as "Baker Zebra." In the meanwhile, the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) had adopted English as the international air traffic control language. They developed a phonetic alphabet for international aviation use, designed to be as "pronounceable" as possible by flyers and traffic controllers speaking many different languages. This was the "Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, Delta..." alphabet used today. The Navy adopted this ICAO alphabet in March 1956. It was then that "Baker Zebra" finally became "Bravo Zulu." (Source)I actually had my boss at SHAPE, a US Army O-6, ask be what the USAF equivelent was to BZ. He was a bit taken back when I said "shit hot," so he asked a few more USAF types and got the same answer. We later told him he could use "sierra hotel" in mixed company or around SNAPs... Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmeaplane Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by Linda: I remember calling the water fountain as "the bubbler," whilest the conversation going on around the bubbler was scuttlebutt.. Anybody got a line on that? Cheers! Linda Being from Milwaukee (Algonquin for the "the good land"), I totally got this one. Back in the day, Milwaukee had a long history of socialist, and not surprisingly, corrupt mayors. God damn hippies. Anways, back to the story. One of these mayors awarded a monopoly for all drinking fountains to the bubbler company (Kohler). So, every time you took a drink, you saw the word bubbler on the drain. It stuck. Not a navy thing...a Milwaukee thing. And apparently a few other places here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Turning something off and/or closing something = SECURING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KoolKat Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Pretending I got up at 0355 to turn something off and/or close something = SECURING. :D BENDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by Scooter14: I like the Navy way of taking a lot of big words and making them into smaller pieces and then jamming them all together to make one really long unintelligible word, like FAIRECONRON-1 (Fleet Air Reconnaissance Squadron One), but then calling it VQ-1 for even shorter. That gets SO annoying. I look at the Navy (from a limited perspective) as antiquated (and not in a good way like the Marines), poorly standardized, slightly gay most of the time and very gay some of the time, and just all around goofy. Do you NEED to walk around with your bag unzipped down to your happy trail during peace time? Just a question. And why can't you just have NORMAL enlisted ranks for me to figure out? But all that makes me wonder - and this is open to any Naval Officer who reads this (or Marine who cares enough to answer): How does the Navy look at us? Spoiled and overly anal-retentive would be my first guess, but I've always wondered that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rare21 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 well in reality the Navy looks at you all as wussies. plain and simple. the scarves dont help fellas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slacker Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 And we care what the Navy thinks of us because why? Oh wait, we don't. Have fun on your next cruise with your 5,000 shower mates. Remember when it's your turn to drop the soap. [ 15. March 2006, 07:47: Message edited by: slacker130 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ghost63 Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Yeah, that's the only argument I ever hear is about the scarves, and it's usually from someone in NROTC, or somewhere along the line in "student naval aviator" training. :rolleyes: Then again, when your service had pretty much been on the back burner since the cold war ended, I guess I'd be a little bitter too. I had a guy (student) ask me if I wanted to fly, why did I join the Air Force. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOF_ATC Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I think the navy looks at us Air Force as wussies is because we don't sleep 5 inches from bubba in the cot next to us who wants to cuddle and we also don't refer to each other as seamen. The real reason navy hates us is because they wish they signed up for Air Force. [ 15. March 2006, 13:31: Message edited by: JasonG ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzdude Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by rare21: well in reality the Navy looks at you all as wussies. plain and simple. the scarves dont help fellas well... http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/pho...N-5248R-012.jpg also http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15444 [ 15. March 2006, 13:48: Message edited by: jazzdude ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddller Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by rare21: well in reality the Navy looks at you all as wussies. plain and simple. the scarves dont help fellas Well, he's right! Don't get me wrong, coming from 7.5 years as a Marine, we all know the AF has better living conditions and hotter/more chicks, but operationally, the other services think your bass-ackwards. The AF way is that you CAN'T do something unless there's a reg that says you can vs. the Navy/Marine way of you CAN do something unless there's a reg that says you can't. It really takes the latitude away from an aircraft commander to accomplish the mission using their best judgement. Back when the cycle test was around, that didn't help either. Neither do the bus driver outfits. Plus, the Navy/Marine Corps has traditions dating back 200 years, while the AF seems to be making them up as they go. I'm not saying ALL traditions are great, but it does make you feel you're proud to be part of a fighting force with 200 years of history vs. almost 60 years of tradition and feeling like you work for a corporation. Before anyone starts a flame war hear, I'm just pointing the general opinion of another service, and I'm not saying they are right or wrong. Besides, I'm in the AF now, so all that stuff must not have been THAT important to me, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riddller Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 On the original topic, does the AF give crazy names to stuff like they did to us in Marine Bootcamp? Examples: ink-stick hot-rock go-fasters moonbeams translation: pen iron sneakers flashlight We actually had to use these terms at all times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 Originally posted by Rocker: How does the Navy look at us? Spoiled and overly anal-retentive would be my first guess, but I've always wondered that. Yup, those thoughts are common. Here are some more common perceptions about the Air Force from the Navy side. (Note to those who get defensive easily... these comments arent ment to increase the flame war- he asked a question and hes getting an answer.) Doesen't ever deploy (this was a very prevelent thought during peace time)-These days its more like "doesn't really deploy". Good at wasting money ("Never have so many done so little with so much") Unable to think outside of the box/on their own. Ass backwards with the way they do things and generally ****ed up like a football-bat. A bunch of homos- all of the time. [ 15. March 2006, 17:58: Message edited by: Zippy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Well, at the very least, it's entertaining that you guys think WE'RE homos! That's like negative world, though I think many would argue against your (convoluted) perspective on Air Force deployments. Unless you mean "deploy" out to sea... In any case, thanks for the answers, squids. Go Navy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 35AoA Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Originally posted by Rocker: But all that makes me wonder - and this is open to any Naval Officer who reads this (or Marine who cares enough to answer): How does the Navy look at us? Spoiled and overly anal-retentive would be my first guess, but I've always wondered that. i don't really care but i'll answer anyways ... 14 years in the Corps (half of them flying) and i'd say "Spoiled and overly anal-retentive" fits the description. i also agree with this statment by Riddller, "The Navy/Marine Corps has traditions dating back 200 years, while the AF seems to be making them up as they go." "So to Speak" is pretty gay coming [so to speak] from the AF. i enjoy [so to speak] briefing with AF dudes and making it a point to say things like "cockpit" [so to speak], "coming in for the overhead" [so to speak], etc to watch those dudes cringe [so to speak?]. i don't see the point in "so to speak" other than it's gay, so to speak. i catch myself getting spooled up when AF or Navy dudes talk bad about the Marines, but before i hit send on my rebuttal, i give it a second thought and usually don't reply ... it's usually just trash talking & in good fun. really, it's fun to make fun of each other and ya gotta have thick skin in this business anyways, back to the point, yep - spoiled and overly anal-retentive = AF ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hydro130 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Uggghhhh... Please ... Moderator... Stop the madness... Too much Blue on Blue here.... We're all on the same team kids, let's not make anything personal.... Cheers, Hydro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zrooster99 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Doesen't ever deploy (this was a very prevelent thought during peace time)-These days its more like "doesn't really deploy".I'll buy that from a Marine, but not from MOST naval dudes... Unless they spent an extended period of time pissing in a hole and burning their own sh!t with diesel fuel I don't want to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 What's wrong with making traditions up as we go? We're still relatively new. I would bet that the Navy was still making up traditions around 1834. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 Oh, Hydro, don't be such a SOAP! Nobody's gotten personal yet - it's still just a small and somewhat friendly pissing match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hydro130 Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 SOAP... Awesome. Fair enough :D Hydro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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