The Next President is...

[HeloDude]

39 minutes ago, uhhello said:

ATF Overlords aren't working my forms....

All the more reason to not need the ATF to “work” these forms.

[uhhello]

7 hours ago, HeloDude said:

All the more reason to not need the ATF to “work” these forms.

Shut down but kind of sorted like

[Sua Sponte]

On 10/16/2025 at 5:58 PM, brickhistory said:

Clinton/Gingrich shutdown back in early 1990s lasted 30+ days.  We survived.  

That shutdown lasted 21 days. It’s currently the second longest shutdown behind the 2018-2019 shutdown during Trump’s first term. The current shutdown is currently at 17 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

Edited yesterday at 12:05 AM by Sua Sponte

[brickhistory]

14 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

That shutdown lasted 21 days. It’s currently the second longest shutdown behind the 2018-2019 shutdown during Trump’s first term. The current shutdown is currently at 17 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_shutdowns_in_the_United_States

I stand corrected...we didn't survive.

[Banzai]

On 10/17/2025 at 7:58 AM, FourFans said:

Dude.  Put down the big media talking points that say this is a binary problem created by republicans.  It takes both sides and no one cares about Epstein, that scumbag and all the people who visited him from both parties are nothing more then chaff.  The shutdown is the result of both parties being populated by raging narcissists who haven't breathed the same air as the average citizen for decades.  They want you pissed at "the other side" so you don't do anything relevant to remove incumbents from power.  Aim your ire at the real culprits: the people you voted for.

It’s not though.

This isn’t about “media talking points.” Adelita Grijalva’s election was certified by Arizona’s secretary of state, the House majority simply refused to schedule her swearing-in. That’s on the official record. The last time Congress blocked a certified member from taking the oath was over a century ago, and it was condemned by both parties as a constitutional failure. Calling that “both sides” is just factually wrong. Only one side controls the calendar.

As a point of order, earlier in this Congress, new members from special elections (e.g., two Florida Republicans and a Virginia Democrat) were sworn in within 24 hours of their election, while the House was not in full session. Just wanna confirm that your alls response as to why this time is justified is the Gov shutdown? Can we just get that one on record?

You say “no one cares about Epstein.” That’s convenient and pathetically incorrect. The issue isn’t the man, it’s whether Congress will release federal files that may implicate powerful people from both parties. That’s transparency, not gossip. Brushing it off only shows how partisanship outweighs curiosity about corruption.

And sure, both parties have their narcissists, but equating systemic obstruction with ordinary dysfunction is a false balance. Trust in Congress has dropped from nearly 70 percent in the 1970s to about 20 percent today. That decline tracks perfectly with the rise of tribal loyalty over constitutional duty.

We all swore an oath once. It wasn’t to a party, and it wasn’t to a personality cult. Watching people on this forum who once understood that retreat behind cynicism and call it realism, it’s hard to decide whether that’s sadder or more dangerous.

Edited 16 hours ago by Banzai

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, Banzai said:

It’s not though.

This isn’t about “media talking points.” Adelita Grijalva’s election was certified by Arizona’s secretary of state, the House majority simply refused to schedule her swearing-in. That’s on the official record. The last time Congress blocked a certified member from taking the oath was over a century ago, and it was condemned by both parties as a constitutional failure. Calling that “both sides” is just factually wrong. Only one side controls the calendar.

As a point of order, earlier in this Congress, new members from special elections (e.g., two Florida Republicans and a Virginia Democrat) were sworn in within 24 hours of their election, while the House was not in full session. Just wanna confirm that your alls response as to why this time is justified is the Gov shutdown? Can we just get that one on record?

You say “no one cares about Epstein.” That’s convenient and pathetically incorrect. The issue isn’t the man, it’s whether Congress will release federal files that may implicate powerful people from both parties. That’s transparency, not gossip. Brushing it off only shows how partisanship outweighs curiosity about corruption.

And sure, both parties have their narcissists, but equating systemic obstruction with ordinary dysfunction is a false balance. Trust in Congress has dropped from nearly 70 percent in the 1970s to about 20 percent today. That decline tracks perfectly with the rise of tribal loyalty over constitutional duty.

We all swore an oath once. It wasn’t to a party, and it wasn’t to a personality cult. Watching people on this forum who once understood that retreat behind cynicism and call it realism, it’s hard to decide whether that’s sadder or more dangerous.

If she's kept from the House when the government reopens, I'm with you 100%.

Until then it's just mock outrage. 

The Constitution did not contemplate a government shutdown. 

[bfargin]

Our founders knew and acknowledged “human nature” while our current society tries to ignore and/or dismiss it.

James Madison

“The truth is all men having power, should be mistrusted”

“If men were angels, no government would be necessary”

and John Adams

“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the governance of any other.”

“There is nothing I dread so much as the division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other”

 

[ViperMan]

I'm here for all the firings. The government is bloated and ineffectual anyway. May as well stop paying for it.

It's ugly, but finally someone is holding the line vs the insane out-of-control dem spending that has been unaccountable (literally) for years.

[Sua Sponte]

3 hours ago, ViperMan said:

I'm here for all the firings. The government is bloated and ineffectual anyway. May as well stop paying for it.

It's ugly, but finally someone is holding the line vs the insane out-of-control dem spending that has been unaccountable (literally) for years.

Yeah, that GS-13 salary is really insane compared to the $40B the US just bought in Argentinian Pesos. Why’d we do that again? 

[Banzai]

13 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

If she's kept from the House when the government reopens, I'm with you 100%.

Until then it's just mock outrage. 

The Constitution did not contemplate a government shutdown. 

The house works during government shutdowns.

[Banzai]

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115398251623299921

Yeah the president of the US posted a video of him as a king dropping feces on American protesters from a fighter jet.

Libs = owned

Edited 1 hour ago by Banzai