Recut Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I used to love sitting in Wing Staff meeting and listen to the Wing CC "go around the room" at the end... The MXG, MSG, Med Gp CC's would all have some stupid queep that they would spend 5 minutes babbling about. Ha, so true. Those meetings are where I also heard a term I couldn't believe I was hearing......."slidesmanship" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram02 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Ha, so true. Those meetings are where I also heard a term I couldn't believe I was hearing......."slidesmanship" Ranks right up there with "wordsmithing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afnav Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Back a few years ago in the ops/mnx disfunctional marriage, the DO ran flight operations, while the SQ/CC ran maintenance and queep. At least it was that way in my squadron. The DO had a meeting with the rated flight commanders and ADOs separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Driver Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Ranks right up there with "wordsmithing." I heard this the other day:"Sir, we've been (insert word for doing poorly) for a while with late DTS authorizations but we're trending back above glideslope now." Isn't being above glideslope a bad thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Last Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Isn't being above glideslope a bad thing? Better than being below glideslope... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Better than being below glideslope... cheers So long as you say "correcting" you can do whatever the hell you want. It's in the geneva conventions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Isn't being above glideslope a bad thing? How many dots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 As long as it's above 500A you're good, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 So long as you say "correcting" you can do whatever the hell you want. It's in the geneva conventions. Or training in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Better than being below glideslope... cheers Not if you want to land and the wx is at mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not if you want to land and the wx is at mins. "Continue." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolyestherDuck Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 "Continue." Field not in sight, sir. At minimums. Go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopyeast Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Field not in sight, sir. At minimums. Go around. Good work co, now get me my sammich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Fuck that, duck under and land this bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Get a load of this: Cap caper ends Guardsman's career http://www.kasa.com/dpps/news/invest...career_4067347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopyeast Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Get a load of this: Cap caper ends Guardsman's career http://www.kasa.com/....career_4067347 Lots of WTF in that article. "The airman was in violation of Air Force regulations in wearing his headgear indoors," Martinez said. "It is a serious offense in the military." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Get a load of this: Cap caper ends Guardsman's career http://www.kasa.com/....career_4067347 Two things. 1) Too many details that are obviously left out, likely intentionally, to stir the pot. 2) Too bad the airman wasn't a Reservist instead of a Guardsman. A Reservist could have just said "FUBIJAR" and walked away while Mr. Shortpants stood there speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flare Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 There's gotta be more to the story. Anyone at Kirtland know all the details? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yes. I have a friend who is a JAG there. She says there is much, MUCH more to the story (of course, she can't say what). If you look down in the comments section, you will see a comment left that says the kid returned 20 min later with his hat on inside AGAIN... Also, the news story says something to the effect of "he already had a lot of diciplinary paperwork". Leads me to believe the kid is a shit bag who we don't want in the AF anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yes. I have a friend who is a JAG there. She says there is much, MUCH more to the story (of course, she can't say what). If you look down in the comments section, you will see a comment left that says the kid returned 20 min later with his hat on inside AGAIN... Also, the news story says something to the effect of "he already had a lot of diciplinary paperwork". Leads me to believe the kid is a shit bag who we don't want in the AF anyway. Right and the shoe was completely in the right by continuing the confrontation out in the parking lot and blocking the airman in his spot. Oh noes! He wore his hat indoors twice? Definately deserves to be kicked out for that! I hope you never wear the wrong colored socks- twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Right and the shoe was completely in the right by continuing the confrontation out in the parking lot and blocking the airman in his spot. Oh noes! He wore his hat indoors twice? Definately deserves to be kicked out for that! I hope you never wear the wrong colored socks- twice. Have you tried to kick a dirtbag enlisted troop out lately? (Or officer for that matter) It's F'ing TOUGH to do, and the ADC fights you all the way. If your paperwork is not perfectly squared away, you can't get rid of 'em. I'm as anti-shoe as the next guy, and I'm sure the sky cop was less than perfect in his response, but if you can find the "straw that breaks the camels back" you hang your hat on it and run with it. I suspect that this straw was what they chose to run with. If the kid was not a dirtbag then I promise you, the NM ANG would be stomping a hole in that cops ass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeagleWeagle Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) I'm just a SNAP at CBM, but I had a little shoe-ish encounter today that maybe some wise men can help clarify for me: Wife and I go off base to a gym and to see a movie. Come back on later that evening, but at the gate the A1C checks my ID and pops a salute, while still holding my ID in his other hand. Me and the wife are in civilian attire. I give him a head nod and say good evening, and am about to leave when I realize he still has my ID. So I ask for it back, and he mumbles something incoherent. I think he's being coy and playing some sort of joke on me, so I just ask again if I can have my ID back. He responds, "once you render the proper customs and courtesies, sir". After a blank look from me for a few seconds, I realize he wants me to salute him back, while wearing my civilian gym attire. So I go ahead and give him one, and we drive off. What is the true protocol on this and should I do in the future? Edit: for brevity Edited February 13, 2012 by WeagleWeagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Noonin Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Quit reading regs. In the AF we return salutes from the gate guards whether we're in civvies or in uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest one Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Have you tried to kick a dirtbag enlisted troop out lately? (Or officer for that matter) It's F'ing TOUGH to do, and the ADC fights you all the way. If your paperwork is not perfectly squared away, you can't get rid of 'em. I'm as anti-shoe as the next guy, and I'm sure the sky cop was less than perfect in his response, but if you can find the "straw that breaks the camels back" you hang your hat on it and run with it. I suspect that this straw was what they chose to run with. If the kid was not a dirtbag then I promise you, the NM ANG would be stomping a hole in that cops ass. The thing that is crazy to me, is the Air Force would rather have some bogus reason to throw someone out than just giving the honest reason. We have a shit bag at our squadron that fukcs up regularly. He is a SSgt that has been fired from four different offices while working in a joint environment. Instead of just getting him out for being horrible at his job they are kicking him out for failure to adapt. He has been in the Air Force for 5 years! How does this make any sense? Why can't the Air Force just be honest about the situation and fire someone who is not competent. It is obviously not our squadron's fault. They used the only tool they had to kick him out. It just doesn't make sense to me. Edited February 13, 2012 by one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeagleWeagle Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Quit reading regs. In the AF we return salutes from the gate guards whether we're in civvies or in uniform. Understood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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