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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    7 hours ago, pawnman said:

    This is something I'll never understand.  If 85% get a MAJCOM push, and we're promoting 75% of folks, how can it be seen as such a negative sign by the board?  Surely the guys in that top 15% got a DP and a school slot, right?

    Curious to see this redacted PRF

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    2 hours ago, Klepto said:

    To make sure I’m tracking, word on the street is that we must push folks for “Sq/CC” as Majors and if we don’t (and it’s not consistent on their last 2 or 3 OPRs) they will not make Lt Col, regardless of other factors (strats, performance, IDE, etc)?

    A BAD progression of pushes is not in and of itself a promotion killer, but it certainly affects a mid-grade record.  

    There certainly is a secret decoder ring for all of this:

    Strats:  looking for Strats in your rank, or as you get higher, Strats in your sq/cc title, etc

    opr push lines:  a consistent message of school, sq/CC, and staff pushes is part of the equation.   Being pushed for a majcom or NAF staff is not a good thing. HAF is 70% of us. JT staff is top tier.  

    PRF: it needs to match the OPR with those pushes.   

    The verbiage of definitely promote is a message.  The check box of definitely promote is obviously the strongest message

    a strat amongst board eligibles in PRF is also a message.

     

      

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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    2 hours ago, Homestar said:

    I've never sat in on a stratification discussion with O-6s, but it seems to me that there are two kinds of strats.  One kind is for the fast burner who is going to be a Wg/CC or GO someday.  Those come in early and are out of sync with the peer group.  Getting a wing strat as a young Captain for example.  The rest of the strats go to the guys approaching IPZ.  When I was IPZ to O-5 the strats went #1-4 to those of us IPZ who all just happened to be working at the Wing at the time.  My guess is that #5-9 went to a couple younger FGOs who were on track to be DPs IPZ the next year.  All my strats on my record started to appear as I was reaching IPZ for a promotion.  Then they magically disappeared once I made the next rank.  Got to make room for the next round of #1-4s.

    Not sure if this is how it works at other Wings.  I was fortunate to meet the IPZ board while working for a stellar Wg/CC who seemed to like me and thought I was doing a good job.  I also recognize that I was lucky to get promoted without school in-res having never worked above the Wing.

    Yes, that’s how it works at most places

    there are also some BPZs sprinkles in.  

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Posted · Edited by bennynova

    Prda worked 5 days ago for me....

     

    i’ve never heard of records being on talent marketplace.  

     

    What we we need are more web based services where everything is scattered about the interwebs...

     

    maybe talent marketplace  will be the one stop shop eventually?  We can only hope. 

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    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Pawnman’s Current wg/CC didn’t GIVE him the shop chief Strats.   I’m sure they both built the best PRF with the record they were given.   Sounds like the wg/CC was honest about the uselessness of the shop chief type Strats.... but again, I don’t think the wg/CC gave them to pawnman

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    Pawnman, I think you were done a disservice by being given #1/30 shop chiefs, etc.... when you could have just as easily gotten #4/25 Capts or Majors...

     

    leadership probably didn’t know what they were doing.... and that sucks that it affected you when your Strats have all shown you were good at your job title

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    On 6/26/2019 at 8:09 PM, celtic020 said:

    Seems like a longer dead period than normal for the release roll-out.   Normally Wing Exec gets the list early....but not two weeks early.  

    2 weeks early is about right

     

    letters have to be personalized/written for both selects and non-selects.  Twice non-selects have paperwork drafted for continuation.  It’s a lot of work for a big wing.  

     

    The info  go starts to flow once the GP CCs get word

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    1 hour ago, Danger41 said:

    For all the young guys getting their first look at school, the best gouge I can give you is to be prepared to be really pissed off when you see some of the dweebs that make it over good bros.

    I thought School selects are no longer a part of promotion....?

     

    unless you are BPZ, then expect it

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    2 hours ago, FLEA said:

    So an interesting discussion at work today was whether new promotion "buckets" will bring back second tier strats again. For example, a 30/100 CGOs looks a lot better now if you are also 1/30 Combat Support Officers. Now your actually telling the board on your PRF this person competes well against others he is boarded against. Thoughts? 

    Maybe this is their band aid solution to be able to deal with a decade + of the third tier Strats...... now a 1/40 IPs or Wingmen mean something and won’t be compared to 1/40 PMs

    Promotion and PRF Information

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    I would hope that a squadron group and Wing CGOQ win only counts as ONE (just at the wing level)

     

    if people are doing otherwise then they are speeding.   Maybe the board has seen that and that is why some one with “12 quarterly awards (really only 5) would not have as strong of a record as they thought?

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