YoungnDumb

Send them anyways. Timeline doesn't care about proficiency.

I'm just passing on what I was told/briefed. We were told one other big reason they are getting rid of them is that they had to get rid of things since it's a condensed syllabus and they would rather have a focus on patterns/instruments. Again, just what I was told. What really needs to happen is the Viper community needs to raise a stink and get it changed. Though in all honesty some kid is gonna eject when he could easily have glided it in before the AF sees the error of its ways.

Luckily I'm in the other squadron.

The big paycheck makes the SAPR briefings a little more tolerable I hope

Ya, concerning the lack of ELP's, apparently the rationale was "that's not how they do it in the Viper so let's can it." Though lest we forget the prime T-X contenders are single engine, or the Viper, of the F-35, but hey whatever.

Don't know about height but if I recall, I think max ejection seat weight is ~235lbs

Also, new T-6 syllabus was briefed today. Here's the short version of what UPT (at least T-6 side), also I am merely the messenger. Phase 1 -Academics and 20 sims with a sim check ride. Rumor/hope is that a green suiter will administer the check ride and that more mil sim IP's will help bridge the sim/flt lint gap. Phase 2 -20 Transition sorties which will be a combination Instrument/Contact. 1 check ride and 1 solo. -8 Nav sorties (can be done XC) -8 form sorties with 1 form solo Track Select -If going T-1/Helo the stud will go do 6 more Nav sorties. If helo the sorties will be VFR/NTA/Low Level focused -If going T-38 the stud will do 3 advanced aero rides, 6 advanced form rides, and 4 tac form/2-ship low level sorties. Then they go to Phase 3. According to the slides it will save 17k sorties per year and shorten UPT by ~6 weeks (3 of that occurring in T-6's). Also, they are getting rid of teaching students EP patterns. Basically if the kid has an engine problem they want him to fly home normally, and if it gets bad just eject. So ya...

There is actually talk of that. Our DO today informed us that they are talking about a T-6 direct C-130 pipeline

Oh ya, Vance is flying jets with the ISS still broken again..."voluntarily" that it is.

Much better than the original plan of tracking students who still had 16+ sorties left to go.

Those events were due to contaminated fuel from another field. Hats off to both those IP's, great dudes and awesome pilots.

We have a sheet we fill out before we step, give it to the Sup who reviews it and checks on certain items like personal factors (making sure you've compartmentalized accordingly/are good to go). If a higher up signature is needed then the Sup grabs the appropriate party. Now in my time in AETC I have never had a CC sign off if I wasn't willing to go. The ones I dealt with when my ORM hit that high were very much along the lines of "Is it a personal thing and/or are you physically/mentally/whatever okay to go?" If the answer was "Yes I'm good, my ORM is high due to wx/mx/trip turn/etc)," they were good signing it. The once or twice where I wasn't okay to go, the Sup caught it and sat my a$$ down and then had some pointed words about my pushing too hard when I wasn't okay too. Now all of this may be different than what has occurred the last few months (reference Vance 7 days ops in January), but that's at least been my experience in AETC thus far.

Yes. And IP's at Vance have supposedly had to explain to higher ups why people were ORM'ing out (mind you this was during the 20 days straight of working). Keep in mind that's just rumor, I was gone during that. But it wouldn't surprise me given there was a time when Deputy OG's and Sq/CC's were wondering around and QC'ing schedules.

This. This is what I hear from a lot of my buddies. It's one thing for us to fly with something broken, but the fact that leadership has continued to for years to operate with no effort to fix things and keeps piling on more broken things and saying everything is ok is the problem.

I'm wiling to be the T-38 will go the way of the BUFF.

It's a Training program vs a Screening program now (hence IFT vs IFS). From what I understand there is about 0% chance of someone washing out, vs when I went thru (circa 2012) we lost 6 out of a 24 person flight. We've definitely seen the difference on the UPT side as well, much lower caliber of the general student population.

Vance doesn't have ALP, we just have a metric ton of Saudis and other countries (read Africa/Middle East).

"Testing." I'm guessing the AF has already decided this it what it wants to do and is simply masquerading it as testing.

My guess is they already know what they are going to pick, but are making it appear as a competition.

Let's be honest, FY20 really means 2050 if the F-35 or any other program is an indication. Even if these programs are "off the shelf," I have a feeling the USAF will screw up the procurement somehow.

I feel like I have to ask the obvious. Where does AFPC think they're going to generate IP's from fore these new squadrons. Or am I misreading this and they're just going to move the squadrons from Holloman?

Too late to change my B-course from Holloman to Kelly?

This is exactly why I avoid associating myself with that place. People wonder why grads are so cynical after they leave, this is why.

Wait what?

Let's also be honest, the B-21 won't even fly until we're all 6ft under if the current AF acquisitions system remains.