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Barry McCockener drew the dicks in the hats.

I agree. I think the right is underestimating the political energy and direction politics is headed in this country, mostly in big cities. I think socialism and open support for violence against the right is taking hold of a larger and larger percentage of the population. The question is, when will the dems find a way to remove themselves from the violent leftist progressives? Let the progressive’s behavior and ideas stand on their own outside of the Democratic Party. This country desperately needs bad examples and we are about to get two of them, one in NYC and the other in Seattle.

If you give the government the power to feed you then you give the government the power to starve you.

These people are absolutely socialist to their core. If they didn’t throw “democratic” in front of socialist they wouldn’t have a chance of getting elected.

There was a similar crash of a DC-10 in 1979 in Chicago where the engine on the left wing separated from the aircraft.

Question for the masses. We’ve all seen countless CRs, a few shutdowns, endless dysfunction, petty politics, division, etc. from our politicians over the years. I know I have in my almost 25 years in the military. To me, this one feels much much different given the state of politics in our country. I think this may be a tipping point of some sort. A time in our history where the government actually stops functioning, where the two sides won’t budge and can’t come to an agreement on even basic issues. I think the hate is as real as the egos. I can see this one dragging out long enough to the point where critical functions are severely impacted like the military, TSA, ATC, etc. My question is, what trip wires do you all see in our system to either prevent this or end this if these politicians can’t work through things? Thoughts?

When I was in my late teens and early 20s I worked in the rental car industry. The company wouldn’t call a vehicle in as stolen or missing until the 30 day mark because of the possibility of a clerical error leading to a felony stop. You can’t rent a car longer than 30 days on one contract because it becomes a lease after 30 days.

I would imagine there are thousands of fraternity houses cracking beers right now getting ready to party on campus for Charlie tonight.

Spot on. It is interesting to consider what would happen if a right wing third party popped up in our system. As powerful as Elon is, I don’t think he would get the support he is anticipating. Republicans aren’t pulling chocks from camp Trump and the radical wing of the Democratic Party was just burning up Teslas and calling him a Nazi, all while being supported by some in democratic leadership. What’s easier to see playing out is the democrat party continuing to spiral into fractured irrelevance. By every measure, the Democrat party is utterly failing. Hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing or have fled from blue states to red, the party is polling positively in the low twenties, they’re losing in court on nearly every issue, something like 90-95% of counties in the country shifted right during the last election, donations to the DNC are drying up, more and more prominent people are switching party affiliation, Trump won all 7 swing states, the Joy Reids of the world are getting fired and the legacy media is on life support, etc. My point is, I can see the Democratic Party splitting (it may have already) before the Republican Party. I truly believe that the vast vast majority of Americans are done with the radical, irrational and crazy social experiments that the democrats represent. That is all they have left and instead of reading the room, they double down. I’m genuinely interested to see how this plays out. We can’t have one party rule in this country. We need two healthy parties to balance power. I hope the democrats can figure their problems out and rebuild into something more moderate.

Thanks for the response Pooter. I’m not one to get into internet arguments or go back and forth with people online. But, I’ll respond. I honestly wasn’t trying to compare one side vs the other, I was simply trying to point out that there is some interesting science behind the manipulation of large groups of people through politicians and the media and that there are real negative, tangible consequences because of the manipulation and herd mentality. With that said, I’m struggling to see how pizzagate, Obama birtherism, wind turbines cause cancer, the war on Christmas, satanic panic, or immigrants eating dogs are anything other than silly clickbait. Those headlines have not had a tangible negative effect on our society. The other examples you listed have had more tangible negative effects on us. Americans died because of gross mismanagement and poor decision making by those in charge in Benghazi, much like the exit from Afghanistan. Vaccines may or may not cause autism, however the truth is coming out about the vaccines. And it’s not good. Stop the steal references the 2020 election. We should all be aware of how big tech, social media, legacy media, politicians and Hollywood coordinated to suppress one side of the political aisle while ignoring true scandals by the other including the laptop and the pay to play schemes the Biden's were involved in. Hindsight is 20/20 and the truth always comes out. Hillary’s emails and the facts surrounding that fiasco exposed the double standards in the legal system between regular people and those in power. That’s tangible and factual. You and I would have been locked up for what she did. BLM marches and the associated violence based on policing lies caused real destruction as well as setting race relations back. Trans issues are very real. The massive increase in the trans population needs addressed. Whoever or whatever is driving this for profit scheme needs exposed. There are endless young people being physically altered permanently because of it. Jews are being harassed and now in at least one example killed over violent rhetoric on college campuses. Yes, groupthink is an issue on both sides. No doubt about it. I’m interested in the science behind it. That’s all my original post was meant to highlight.

I’ve been doing a lot of reading/listening/watching content discussing the science of manipulating people’s brains to create “social mania”. In the last 10-15 years there have been countless examples of the herd believing and amplifying whatever the new mania is overnight. Some examples being the #metoo movement, BLM, systemic racism, Covid lockdowns, Nazi’s, trans, Biden’s cognitive ability, Russia Russia Russia, etc. It really is fascinating to read how the media and politicians exploit the natural instincts in human beings to fear things and in turn negatively react to emotional stimulus. It is pure propaganda and it is extremely effective. Dan Crenshaw (who I don’t care for) did a podcast with Arthur C Brooks about it. I’ve linked it below. It’s a fantastic listen and worth the hour and a half of your time. Lionel Shriver has written extensively about this as well. I’ve posted a link to one of her articles. The problem is, there are real negative effects on our society and how we interact with each other. Police officers have been killed due to policing hoaxes, 2 people were just shot and killed in DC by a guy shouting Free Palestine, Trump was nearly assassinated, etc. The endless race hysteria has created “black fatigue” which hurts race relations. At the very least, this mess puts people in boxes and those that believe the hysteria rarely, if ever admit they fell for the hoax. “a social frenzy seldom subsides because its agitators announce they were addled, just as the masses of ordinary people caught up in the derangement seldom acknowledge having been led astray. Everyone simply moves on, only to become consumed by something else.” - Lionel Shriver. We see this time and time again with people on this very board. People leave or never post again rather than admit they were wrong. Those that stay, often double or triple down on their opinions even when faced with the eventual historical truth. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hold-these-truths-with-dan-crenshaw/id1498149200?i=1000634300667 https://unherd.com/2024/04/how-to-spot-the-next-mania/

The machine did its very best to put us through some alternate reality regarding the whole Biden affair. That level of coordination and manipulation perpetrated on the American people will hopefully never be seen again. I’m glad the truth is coming out so we can all see what is being exposed. I don’t believe the democrat party or legacy media will have significant influence any time soon because of it. Progressives and their politics are just an annoyance for the vast majority of the country. That’s why their favorability numbers are so historically low. Something else will be born out of those ashes for sure and we will see what it becomes. Hopefully, level headed democrats will form something to counter the republicans and we can have a semi functioning government again. I am sure this will come across as insensitive and too early, but I am not excited about watching the machine paint Biden as a saint when he goes, and I’m betting he goes quickly after this diagnosis.

Your moral superiority cup runneth over today. bravo

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Dems can’t stop picking the losing side. They just can’t help themselves.