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Don't know if this is a continuation of the Libya doctrine and should therefore be posted there but here goes (if it needs to be moved, a little help mods?): So this https://dailycaller.c...tensions-flare/ combined with this https://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/11/23/un-and-turkey-increase-pressure-on-syrias-assad/ makes me think this doctrine is taking over.

But, but, it's ILLEGAL to carry a weapon in DC never mind the shooting at the White House thing. It's illegal, therefore it can't happen.

Yep, if it makes it all the way into law, it will eliminate the lunacy of Maryland not recognizing other states'. Fkcin' 'tards... But, of course, DC, where I REALLY think I should carry, is exempt.

https://www.politico....1111/68541.html

Stupid question time: In reading the MFR, it states "increase F-16 FTU throughput as much as possible by reducing the syllabus without reducing combat skills (paraphrased). So, is there fat during FTU? If so, why is it there and why has it been allowed? (I suspect not) If not, what will get cut and how can it not affect combat capability? Won't this method throw more of a training burden on the line F-16 squadron when the newbie shows up? If so, who gets blamed if the accident rate goes up?

Winner!

https://dailycaller.com/2011/11/15/massachusetts-anti-military-law-professor-attended-university-of-moscow/

Here's hopin': https://dailycaller.com/2011/11/14/house-to-consider-national-concealed-carry-gun-bill-tuesday/ I wonder if the Senate would pass it and, if so, if the President would sign it? This is a no-brainer to me, but I'm biased. It is a political hot potato, however.

Or to ensure getting the last word in. Ok, slowly and paraphrasing for brevity and for my understanding of the thread thus far- 1. I posted the SEAL's "account." 2. You rolled in with "he's got a big mouth and out to make some $$$" with nothing to back it up other than your say so. Which isn't always so, IMHO. 3. I said I didn't know the guy and wouldn't say that about a SEAL but if you think he's out for $$ and fame how is that any different than the "official" story's, many times corrected, purpose? 4. You then claimed I had a conspiracy woody. 5. Then you wanted to call me out on why anyone should care. Is the "we" royal or do you really speak for everyone? - Well, I do, so that's one. The "read" count on this thread increases (could be to see the tussle between two ORFs over the last carton of Lucky Strikes...), and one person besides you and me commented. 6. I have tried multiple times to take this from personal back to the topic including finding verification of the apparently ficticious account by the SEAL in question. So he's making things up as did the official account and I expressed no surprise. I find the topic interesting. Classified details of current TTPs obviously shouldn't be discussed as you attempt to paint me as wanting to do, but the accurate story within those parameters of THE culmination of the specific events of 9/11 should be told. Be a helluva read, something good news for Team USA, and a testament to those who performed the mission. Without reflective belts I'd bet, so there's that as well. So stick around, I'm not implying otherwise. I am suggesting that the personal innuendo cease or be moved to the bar and leave this thread for discussion on topic.

Colorful character aspersion and suggestion of motives. Inaccurate but colorful. I chose to offer a different view of the event as reported. And to your point about the SEAL having a big mouth: https://security.blog...bin-laden-raid/ So somebody is telling porkies...or everyone is. Standard. Let it go.

Then why keep commenting? A different account of what happened is presented. I find that interesting. I'm not looking for a p1ssing contest, but I will post on-topic thoughts and items if I choose. You can choose to read them and comment on them or ignore them.

My point in posting the article was to note that there is a different version of the raid being told. A previous poster wondered if the "official" story was true or not. The SEAL, whom you said had a big mouth, gives a very different account of how the raid progressed supposedly via interviews with those involved, not just about when the helicopter crashed. I noted the differences from the oft-changed official story and this one. You chose to comment. I imagine the true story is somewhere else and I hope it gets told one day accurately. If more or credibly different versions or details are revealed, I hope those are posted.

I agree that the BL is that the MF is still dead. I disagree that politicians are to be trusted more than a former SEAL, big mouth or otherwise. I don't know him, don't know his reputation other than if he made it as a SEAL, that gets my respect. And I'm surprised to see you call out a SEAL, former or otherwise, so. That presumes you know him or of him to make such an assertion. But as wannabe power players like Brennan were so quick to talk the cool talk and then have to walk it back because they were flat wrong makes me think that the truth could still be out there. That does seem to be current President's major claim to fame as he runs for re-election. Something like making money off the work of others. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8491108/Osama-bin-Laden-day-two-and-a-new-version-of-how-events-unfolded.html https://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html Book sales or not.

"Gump, you are a gawddamned genius!" https://dailycaller.com/2011/11/07/correcting-the-fairy-tale-a-seals-account-of-how-osama-bin-laden-really-died/

That's funny right there, I don't care who you are...

Took me a minute... THAT I'd like to see.

OUT-FVCKIN'-STANDING!

OWs has nothing on you for sticking it to the man! Do tell the details.

Just some google-fu for the most part. A couple of visits to the DC gun shows as well. Those were way to pricey for the condition in my opinion. Pretty beat up grips (dinged, missing the Browning medal center ((notorious for coming off. Which mine did while shooting, but some superglue and awareness to watch for it should keep that from occurring again.)), worn areas on the slide/frame, etc, etc. I'm hinky about buying used guns that I plan to shoot and don't know the owner and his track record for maintenance and the like. As these are out of production (although RUMINT says Browning produces a limited run and/or there's some secret stash somewhere. Probably next to the Arc of the Covenent in the Gov't warehouse...), a gently used or really lucky find of a "new old stock" was my only option. Gunbroker/gunsAmerica, et al usually have 2-5 BDA's for sale at any time. Most ot them have looked pretty beat up - pawnshops, etc type guns (not that there's anything wrong with that!). So those were available for a pretty cheap price $300-400, they looked too beat up for me. Google "Browning BDA .380 for sale" and a long list of entries appears. Most are expired and/or sold. This one was on the Pennsylvania Firearms Owner's Association or some such board. It was listed as for sale with no apparent buyers but the listing was about four months in the past. The photos looked really good and there was no wear on the slide visible so I figured it was worth a shot (no pun intended). I joined, e-mailed the lister and asked if it was still available. We talked on the phone as well It was still available and I offered the guy his last asking price. He said it was a fun gun, but he'd only shot it about 100 rounds as he was more a long gun shooter/hunter so this one was a space taker-upper and not his style. A USPS money order for $525 and a trading of FFL info and the pistol was mine. I'm sure they can be had for less as well as much more. I'm content with the deal and happy to have the pistol. edited to add: as of today, 4 Nov 11, 1430Z, there are two really nice looking blued ones on gunbroker. Starting price with no bid is $395. Sale has 1 day, 9 hours to run. No, it is not mine. Just thought I'd point it out for anyone interested.

"We Were One," by Patrick O'Donnell. The Battle of Fallujah via the experiences of one Marine rifle platoon. Nothing fancy for strategy or public policy for the most part, just brutal urban combat. 45-man platoon did 11 days of combat and came out with 19 walking.

note: not my photo OLD SCHOOL - Browning BDA .380 I've been wanting one of these for a while but since they are out of production finding one in great shape for a workable price has been a challenge. One I surmounted over the past week. This is a very old school looking pistol. One that the performance backed up. i put 150 rounds through it yesterday and 150 successful bangs resulted. It's a very solid piece of craftsmanship - even though it says "Browning," it is actually produced by Beretta. It is very similar to the Cheetah series of Beretta .380s with the enclosed slide of the Browning being a major difference. Placement of the safety/decocker being another. This Browning has it on the slide. It's also fairly big. It's larger than a PPK by about a third and I put it about the same size as an officer's 1911 .45. The barrel is 3.8 inches, and has either a 10 or 13 round magazine (depends on whether it was manufactured pre or post-big magazine ban. Either fits.) The sights suck. Front is a miniscule fixed half-moon bump with the rear sights being windage adjustable with, and I kid you not, the instruction manual showing a guy using a wood shim being hammerd by a mallet to move the dovetailed sights left or right. TLAR for results. With the trigger guard being artistically pleasing, it is not designed for a stressful situation in my opinion. The opening is kinda small and a gloved finger would be danged near impossible for me to insert. Double action pull is MUCH better/lighter than my PPK/S, with a very clean break. Single action is also good, very sharp, no drag or hesitation, not as good as the Walther to me, but still not heavy. It's a very 1 or 0 trigger The safety/decocker is tiny and nearly flush with the slide so it's troublesome to work. That said, at 25 feet, this thing was silver dollar-sized 10 ring for 100 shots. Slow fire, aimed shots to be sure, but if I did my part, it did its. At 50 feet, the front sight disappeared to my eyes (black sight, black target) and the results were accordingly placed. All but 2 of 50 in the much wider 9 ring, but damned tough to do. The two outliers weren't much into the 8 ring, but still... This is an all steel gun so it's heavy which soaked up the .380 recoil. Take down is very traditional - push the pin, rotate the lever, move the slide forward, take the guide rod/spring out, take the barrel out, clean, reassemble. I like this gun a lot. It looks good, it shoots good if you do your part, and it looks like a pistol from an older time. I do not see it ever being a carry piece. For the size, there are much larger caliber handguns available with better sights and, in some cases, much less weight/bulk. It's too big for a concealed weapon and too small for a service pistol. No, this is strictly a range queen for me, but I really like it. Available in a very nice nickel or traditional blued finish, I wanted the blued version. Both have very comfortable, kinda chunky nice walnut grips.

Those internets are powerful informational tools. Some slack time today revealed that my Dad's 1911A1 was manufactured in 1945 by Colt. I was hoping to find the "AFPG" markings since he was on the USAF Rifle and Pistol team in the 1950s. Apparently, that marking was one made by the Air Force Armory (geez, a USAF armory. Must be back in the days when there were O'Clubs where you could drink, a base auto shop, an aero club, and a ramp full of new airplanes. Sigh...). Anyway, no such luck on the AFPG marking. But the rest of the markings, a "GHD" and a "P" on the frame match with the serial number being from the last batch of Colt wartime production.

I live about 3 miles from the Expo Center (site of the DC Gunshow). I went last time and thought they, the vendors, were all pretty proud of their wares. I have found much better deals online - Bud's, Gunbroker, etc. Lots to look at to get your ideas. And to put a plug in for some good customer service - I bought some ammo last night from Georgia Arms, total came to $492. S/H was $35. Got a call this morning telling me that if I spent $8 more, I could free shipping and save the $35. Outstanding to them.