Swizzle 81 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, pilotguy said: Does anyone know the different MAF DT vectors for Maj (s) and their corresponding percentages? You mean as in OSD vector infers sub 1 percentile? Tell you this much that hopefully already know: The realistic percentages that can actually fulfill those vectors do not match the actual capability/quantity of billets So, thresholds are typically inferred as <1%, 2-5%, 10%, 25-30% and...Wing Staff. There is a few conflicting slides/numbers floating around functionals' webpages. And your right, seems MAJCOMs infer different numbers Edited October 1, 2020 by Swizzle sp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
osulax05 45 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 13 hours ago, pilotguy said: Does anyone know the different MAF DT vectors for Maj (s) and their corresponding percentages? A1K and the functionals posted slides on the MAF Mentoring Facebook within the last week that has the breakdown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chuck17 339 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bender 251 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don’t understand a lot, but DT Vectors is one I have never understood. What’s the point?~Bendy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
General Chang 309 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Bender said: I don’t understand a lot, but DT Vectors is one I have never understood. What’s the point? ~Bendy It is another way to get an “across the board” unofficial stratification early in your career (first vector as Major-select). Ensures we keep our bottom of the barrel-scrapping officers from being considered for joint jobs (can only go one up & one down). Also serves to start delineating who truly has the potential to become an HPO. Learn the system, folks! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MCO 62 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 hours ago, General Chang said: It is another way to get an “across the board” unofficial stratification early in your career (first vector as Major-select). Ensures we keep our bottom of the barrel-scrapping officers from being considered for joint jobs (can only go one up & one down). Also serves to start delineating who truly has the potential to become an HPO. Learn the system, folks! ChaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAANG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrizzell 149 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Ensures we keep our bottom of the barrel-scrapping officers from being considered for joint jobs (can only go one up & one down). Also serves to start delineating who truly has the potential to become an HPO. Learn the system, folks!We’ve missed you Chang. And as one of those “barrel-scrapers” vectored for MAJCOM staff, it would have been nice to have someone in a position of leadership explain the rules. The vast majority of us don’t ever get the secret decoder ring brief. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slc 14 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Or Go Guard!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtic020 57 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Anyone hearing their O-5 results? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Homestar 871 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 34 minutes ago, slc said: Or Go Guard!! Good bot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otsap 49 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, celtic020 said: Anyone hearing their O-5 results? Got the call yesterday from my SR - selected. PRF: #6/10, P, IDE complete, IPZ Edited October 2, 2020 by otsap ETA: added IPZ 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pawnman 1,681 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, celtic020 said: Anyone hearing their O-5 results? Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF. Sometimes there is justice in the system. 16 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
otsap 49 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, pawnman said: Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF. Sometimes there is justice in the system. Congrats! You had quite the frustrating saga. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigred 158 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, celtic020 said: Anyone hearing their O-5 results? Call it a win; #3/9, P, "one more DP to give", and IDE in-correspondence complete 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtic020 57 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 28 minutes ago, pawnman said: Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF. Sometimes there is justice in the system. Dude -- happy for you. Congrats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
celtic020 57 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Also got picked up. Definitely relieved....the 20 and out plan remains unchanged. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BashiChuni 1,056 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 hours ago, General Chang said: It is another way to get an “across the board” unofficial stratification early in your career (first vector as Major-select). Ensures we keep our bottom of the barrel-scrapping officers from being considered for joint jobs (can only go one up & one down). Also serves to start delineating who truly has the potential to become an HPO. Learn the system, folks! He’s back! YES!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Runr6730 80 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, celtic020 said: Also got picked up. Definitely relieved....the 20 and out plan remains unchanged. Congrats! Same story for me, although after telling me I was picked up my CC said “I know you had a grand plan but making rank tends to change things.” Not for me...still putting my family first and still getting out at 20. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Homestar 871 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, Runr6730 said: Congrats! Same story for me, although after telling me I was picked up my CC said “I know you had a grand plan but making rank tends to change things.” Not for me...still putting my family first and still getting out at 20. This gave me a good laugh....I went into O-5 thinking responsibility would increase. I’ve not had less responsibilities since I was a captain. Being off the command track as an O-5 is magical. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bennynova 120 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Heard I didn’t make it. 1/1 IPZ, #2/6 Majors (behind a Lt Col (s)). I think that’s what did me In? With a P IDE complete in 2017 i had 5 oprs as a major and stratted as a major in 4 of them #1/4 Majors deployed and #6/25 Majors #22/150 Majors #7/160 Majors no strat #3/7 Majors lots of FGOY and FGOQ awards 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pawnman 1,681 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, bennynova said: Heard I didn’t make it. 1/1 IPZ, #2/6 Majors (behind a Lt Col (s)). I think that’s what did me In? With a P IDE complete in 2017 i had 5 oprs as a major and stratted as a major in 4 of them #1/4 Majors deployed and #6/25 Majors #22/150 Majors #7/160 Majors no strat #3/7 Majors lots of FGOY and FGOQ awards I don't know how you got passed over with those strats. Edited October 2, 2020 by pawnman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainMorgan 9 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Anyone know if it’s possible to Palace Chase a bonus commitment? I took the bonus expecting to either make it or be passed over IPZ and 1APZ and be a free agent, but with the new system I guess I have four more IPZ “No’s” awaiting me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lifer 11 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said: Anyone know if it’s possible to Palace Chase a bonus commitment? I took the bonus expecting to either make it or be passed over IPZ and 1APZ and be a free agent, but with the new system I guess I have four more IPZ “No’s” awaiting me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FWIW, I took the bonus to 20 then got passed over. I then tried palace chasing before I was twice passed over as I wasn’t sure if I would be offered continuation and was denied palace chase due to low manning in my career field. I could be wrong but you may still be able to deny continuation and get out. I’d definitely verify that with AFPC if you end up getting passed over twice but if you do nothing the continuation paperwork should spell out everything. That was 2 years ago so YMMV depending on your MDS manning, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainMorgan 9 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 FWIW, I took the bonus to 20 then got passed over. I then tried palace chasing before I was twice passed over as I wasn’t sure if I would be offered continuation and was denied palace chase due to low manning in my career field. I could be wrong but you may still be able to deny continuation and get out. I’d definitely verify that with AFPC if you end up getting passed over twice but if you do nothing the continuation paperwork should spell out everything. That was 2 years ago so YMMV depending on your MDS manning, etc. Yeah, the issue is with the new promotion system. This was my first of five IPZ looks. I won’t be APZ until I’m at 18+ years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Swizzle 81 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, CaptainMorgan said: Yeah, the issue is with the new promotion system. This was my first of five IPZ looks. I won’t be APZ until I’m at 18+ years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 year buckets aren't yet instituted, ask AFPC/A1...as far as I know continuation and twice passed over are still "things"...my data is from this week 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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