Promotion and PRF Information

[Homestar]

47 minutes ago, Runr6730 said:

Congrats!  Same story for me, although after telling me I was picked up my CC said “I know you had a grand plan but making rank tends to change things.”  Not for me...still putting my family first and still getting out at 20.

This gave me a good laugh....I went into O-5 thinking responsibility would increase. I’ve not had less responsibilities since I was a captain. Being off the command track as an O-5 is magical. 

[bennynova]

Heard I didn’t make it.   1/1 IPZ, #2/6 Majors (behind a Lt Col (s)).  I think that’s what did me In?  With a P    IDE complete in 2017

i had 5 oprs as a major and stratted as a major in 4 of them

#1/4 Majors deployed and #6/25 Majors

#22/150 Majors

#7/160 Majors

no strat

#3/7 Majors

 

lots of FGOY and FGOQ awards

[pawnman]

56 minutes ago, bennynova said:

Heard I didn’t make it.   1/1 IPZ, #2/6 Majors (behind a Lt Col (s)).  I think that’s what did me In?  With a P    IDE complete in 2017

i had 5 oprs as a major and stratted as a major in 4 of them

#1/4 Majors deployed and #6/25 Majors

#22/150 Majors

#7/160 Majors

no strat

#3/7 Majors

 

lots of FGOY and FGOQ awards

I don't know how you got passed over with those strats.

Edited October 2, 2020 by pawnman

[CaptainMorgan]

Anyone know if it’s possible to Palace Chase a bonus commitment? I took the bonus expecting to either make it or be passed over IPZ and 1APZ and be a free agent, but with the new system I guess I have four more IPZ “No’s” awaiting me.


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[Tommy]

15 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said:

Anyone know if it’s possible to Palace Chase a bonus commitment? I took the bonus expecting to either make it or be passed over IPZ and 1APZ and be a free agent, but with the new system I guess I have four more IPZ “No’s” awaiting me.


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FWIW, I took the bonus to 20 then got passed over. I then tried palace chasing before I was twice passed over as I wasn’t sure if I would be offered continuation and was denied palace chase due to low manning in my career field. I could be wrong but you may still be able to deny continuation and get out. I’d definitely verify that with AFPC if you end up getting passed over twice but if you do nothing the continuation paperwork should spell out everything.  That was 2 years ago so YMMV depending on your MDS manning, etc. 

[CaptainMorgan]

FWIW, I took the bonus to 20 then got passed over. I then tried palace chasing before I was twice passed over as I wasn’t sure if I would be offered continuation and was denied palace chase due to low manning in my career field. I could be wrong but you may still be able to deny continuation and get out. I’d definitely verify that with AFPC if you end up getting passed over twice but if you do nothing the continuation paperwork should spell out everything.  That was 2 years ago so YMMV depending on your MDS manning, etc. 

Yeah, the issue is with the new promotion system. This was my first of five IPZ looks. I won’t be APZ until I’m at 18+ years.


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[Swizzle]

1 hour ago, CaptainMorgan said:

Yeah, the issue is with the new promotion system. This was my first of five IPZ looks. I won’t be APZ until I’m at 18+ years.


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5 year buckets aren't yet instituted, ask AFPC/A1...as far as I know continuation and twice passed over are still "things"...my data is from this week

[Tommy]

3 hours ago, Swizzle said:

5 year buckets aren't yet instituted, ask AFPC/A1...as far as I know continuation and twice passed over are still "things"...my data is from this week

That’s my understanding as well. They are looking into it and if they want to do it they will institute it in 2022/2023 from the email I received. 

[GKinnear]

15 hours ago, pawnman said:

Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF.

Sometimes there is justice in the system.

Congrats!

[14N Guy]

On 10/2/2020 at 11:45 AM, pawnman said:

Yes...and shockingly, got picked up 1 APZ with a 5/10 push line and P on the PRF.

Sometimes there is justice in the system.

Congrats!

[bennynova]

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

[pawnman]

8 minutes ago, bennynova said:

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

I was told in person...but I'm at a GSU with like 5 total active duty, so...

[celtic020]

17 minutes ago, bennynova said:

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

In person.  

[BKANO]

33 minutes ago, bennynova said:

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

Got a meeting today 😕 

[bennynova]

I have a zoom meeting today

[Runr6730]

Phone call, but I am TDY

[Bigred]

1 hour ago, bennynova said:

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

I’m deployed and my home unit commander called me on Wednesday afternoon to let me know. 

[pawnman]

1 hour ago, BKANO said:

Got a meeting today 😕 

How long did they book the meeting for, and is it their office or yours?

[14N Guy]

1 hour ago, bennynova said:

How is everyone getting notified?

 

phone call?   Video call?  In person?

 

 

I already know my results (thank you to the grapevine), but my leadership has not contacted me in anyway to give me the same info. So about what I am used to!

[celtic020]

2 minutes ago, 14N Guy said:

I already know my results (thank you to the grapevine), but my leadership has not contacted me in anyway to give me the same info. So about what I am used to!

Haven't scrolled back through to check so I hope I'm not intruding here but if you know you didn't get selected and your "leadership" allows you to check the list tomorrow and not see your name, then that is an epic failure and pisses me off.  Too much of that going around in today's Air Force.  

[14N Guy]

Just now, celtic020 said:

Haven't scrolled back through to check so I hope I'm not intruding here but if you know you didn't get selected and your "leadership" allows you to check the list tomorrow and not see your name, then that is an epic failure and pisses me off.  Too much of that going around in today's Air Force.  

Well, I'm 3APZ and we half been at reduced manning where I am, so I'm not even sure what days our O-6 is in. Still, lots of time left in the day, so we will see what happens. I'm not too upset with it. I'm more upset with a promotion system that doesn't give feedback to folks (outside of "maybe next year!") but still expects people to run the race as hard as possible in the hopes of something positive happening.

If the AF is going to make changes to the promotion system, make full-measures that are truly meaningful. Not half-measures that may, or may not, get implemented. /getsoffsoapbox

[bennynova]

9 minutes ago, pawnman said:

How long did they book the meeting for, and is it their office or yours?

Mine is 15 minute zoom call.   At 315ET

[pawnman]

23 minutes ago, bennynova said:

Mine is 15 minute zoom call.   At 315ET

If it's only 15 minutes over Zoom, that may be a sign it's good news.  If you were passed over, there's physical paperwork to sign, and the boss would likely set aside more time to talk about it.

I'm pulling for you!  Good luck!

[bennynova]

That’s true!  I forgot about the paperwork part (been through it before).   
 

anyhow, I’ve been told I didn’t make it by 1 random person on this board (who has a “friend with a list”).

so I’m going in expecting not to make it.   The lists are all segregated by location, SRID, and LAF category, and I’m not even certain if this guy’s “friend” knows that or knows what list he was looking at.   
 

if I don’t make it, I’m doing an FOIA request for the bottom 10 promoted and making a case for mine.   In my opinion, my record is good enough, and I’ve seen hundreds of packages through my exec days.  

[14N Guy]

Are the board demographics posted to RAW after the promotion board is released to the public? I checked this morning and didn't see them yet.