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Maybe I’m wrong but we basically have a flying only career track that tops out at O-4. Because if all you do is fly and scoff your desk job, in today’s environment you will make O-4, be passed over twice for O-5 and be continued until retirement. You will also be financially behind your peers who got out after 11 years and started flying for the airlines. If you don’t guarantee guys with no negative indicators a promotion to O-5 then it’s basically just relabeling what we already have now. At least an O-5 paycheck and retirement starts to make some of the math make sense... Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Bummer Pawnman, hate it when guys that want to stay in and make a difference don’t get promoted to places where they can affect positive change. Keep your head up brother! Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Both of them are really good peoples surprisingly. But the rest of us peons were just surprised nothing was done about it. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Had an SP throw the T-6 to max power on a static takeoff while holding brakes which caused the brakes to lock up. The IP eventually took the aircraft but it still departed the runway and caused the nose gear to collapse. It took the RSU controller telling the IP to shut the engine off while the prop was grinding into the ground before the engine was secured. No Q-3 and the IP ended up as the Wing Exec and a school select shortly after. Had another IP do a touch and go on a 2500 ft uncontrolled field and no Q-3, after previously have been counseled for telling students to see how many continuous aileron rolls they could do on their solo. The student who broke the “record” recovered his aircraft around 2000 feet AGL, but was kicked out for lying about it. Nothing done to the IP. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

PickYour... nah. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

I know a dude at United doing the same thing. He’s close enough to retirement that when he gets back he will finish out. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

After a couple month flying for the airlines, I realized I should have been dreaming of this job. Even on first year pay I can’t figure out how to spend all this money. Sounds like you have it all figured out kid. I wanted to fly fighters when I got to college but glad that it worked out the way it did for me. I have buddies that thanks to ALO, predator assignments, the tiered readiness fiasco and other shenanigans are just hitting their 1,000 hours. Can’t speak from experience but one of my best fighter buddies told me that for a couple hours a week it is the best job in the world, the other 60+ suck so much that it casts a shadow on the other couple hours. Instead of ranting on a military forum with something you know nothing about, maybe you should spend your time trying to get better and achieve your goals. Also, I said no pickles on my burger. If you put them on their again, God help me... Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

While I can’t vouch for his T-38 time, he did fine in the T-6 and had a great attitude. If he had sucked super bad, the Commander at the time was sending guys to T-1s at other bases due to the pilot shortage and not risking T-38 washouts. Like Pawnman said, everyone in the chain recommended retraining to a different crew aircraft but almighty Rand new better than the people below him. I’ve flown with enough terrible co-pilots to know that he would have been successful in a different aircraft. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Good point. I meant a mobility aircraft. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

If this is the guy that I’m thinking about... similar stories. He is a really good dude and definitely didn’t deserve the treatment he got from the assclown 4-Star. I wrote that guy a letter to his FEB detailing his performance in UPT and how he would be more than fine in a crew asset. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

That’s awesome! Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

The way I read it, you would need to be done with your 10 year UPT commitment. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Yeah, I guess I just don’t understand what the big deal is if you had already finished your alert commitment for the month. I guess if you could somehow take leave that last week or try to drop one week of orders you would be good? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Ignorant question. Whats to stop someone from being on 30 day alert orders, sitting their 12 days of alert in the first 3 weeks of the month and then picking up and flying an airline trip the last week that you are off but still technically under orders? Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

It was held up due to pushback from the SECDEF office if I remember correctly. We had a couple brothers on here effected where their names were pulled from both the “select” and “non-select” lists pending an appeal from the AF on why they should be promoted. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app