I can name 3 class As from the past 6 months that directly implicated  decreased experience as one of the factors. 
Different pots of money... 

And there will be more. Many more…


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Vance 25-11 AM/AF (T-1/T-38)

 

T-1 XPW:

C-17 JBER x2

KC-46 Pease ANGB

KC-135 Eielson

HC-130J Gabreski ANGB

KC-46 McConnell

C-130J Ft Worth

C-5 Travis

C-130H Reno

C-130H Rosecrans ANGB

C-17 Pittsburgh ARS

 

T-38:

T-38 FAIP x2

F-35 Jacksonville Guard

F-16 Holloman

C-130J Yokota

Edited June 7Jun 7 by jorfy

On 5/30/2025 at 8:44 PM, ViperMan said:

Well. Go ahead...we can read the AIBs, which are not safety privileged. Which ones?

Not always an aib. If you have afsas:

6418625, 8888893, 1193078, 5122515, 4628902

On 5/24/2025 at 5:53 PM, jorfy said:

All the drops are out of the T-6. The 5 T-38s are Phase 3 T-38Cs. Heavies are now T-6 direct to FTU with no more T-1.

VN 25-11AU assignables

5x T38

3x C17 (Dover x2, McChord)
3x C130J (Dyess, Yokota, Ramstein)
3x KC46 (McConnell x2, Travis)
AC130J
C5 Dover
C146
E3
KC135 Fairchild
T6 FAIP

On 6/6/2025 at 7:32 PM, Punk said:

VN 25-11AU assignables

5x T38

3x C17 (Dover x2, McChord)
3x C130J (Dyess, Yokota, Ramstein)
3x KC46 (McConnell x2, Travis)
AC130J
C5 Dover
C146
E3
KC135 Fairchild
T6 FAIP

Is that the first Travis -46 drop?

On 6/6/2025 at 9:32 PM, Punk said:

VN 25-11AU assignables

5x T38

3x C17 (Dover x2, McChord)
3x C130J (Dyess, Yokota, Ramstein)
3x KC46 (McConnell x2, Travis)
AC130J
C5 Dover
C146
E3
KC135 Fairchild
T6 FAIP

Curiosity killing the cat here. Do T-6 FAIPs go onto heavies now, or is it where they could track T-38s after their FAIP tour? Civilian here, just pure curiosity as to how assignments work currently out of USAF UPT. 

On 6/21/2025 at 11:14 AM, Sua Sponte said:

Is that the first Travis -46 drop?

Nah. I've had a buddy who dropped the 46 to Travis a year and a half ago.

15 hours ago, Arkbird said:

Nah. I've had a buddy who dropped the 46 to Travis a year and a half ago.

Macdill will be opening around 2026ish.

KEND 25-12AF (T-38)

 

F-15E SJ

F-22 Langley

Eurofighter Germany

KC-135 McConnell

T-38 FAIP

On 5/30/2025 at 7:44 PM, ViperMan said:

Well. Go ahead...we can read the AIBs, which are not safety privileged. Which ones?

Not every SIB has a corresponding AIB. 

On 6/26/2025 at 2:52 PM, Sua Sponte said:

Macdill will be opening around 2026ish.

Unless you've got some inside info, last I saw Macdill 46's are pushing 2030.

11 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

Not every SIB has a corresponding AIB. 

Interesting. I assumed they were required by statute so there was something publicly releasable so the US taxpayer got to have some sort of insight into where their tax dollars just went.

Makes sense they wouldn’t have a releasable AIB for security reasons in some cases.

15 hours ago, ViperMan said:

Interesting. I assumed they were required by statute so there was something publicly releasable so the US taxpayer got to have some sort of insight into where their tax dollars just went.

AMC has had SIB’s the AMC/CC elected to have a CDI instead of an AIB because they didn’t want certain “evidence” to become public. 

23 hours ago, stlpilot11 said:

Unless you've got some inside info, last I saw Macdill 46's are pushing 2030.

I do have some inside info, a sim site manager is being hired at the end of this year, instructors spinning up in 2026, and they should start getting their jets around then. Look at UPT drops to be 2029-2030 (I thought it would be less than that).

On 6/27/2025 at 6:28 PM, jorfy said:

KEND 25-12AF (T-38)

 

F-15E SJ

F-22 Langley

Eurofighter Germany

KC-135 McConnell

T-38 FAIP

 McConnell KC-135 out of T-38s? Woof.

 

 

19 hours ago, Sua Sponte said:

I do have some inside info, a sim site manager is being hired at the end of this year, instructors spinning up in 2026, and they should start getting their jets around then. Look at UPT drops to be 2029-2030 (I thought it would be less than that).

This.

MacDill is on the way in the late 2020s, but wont start deliver or PCS until the other MOBs are full up. March, MacDill, and Selfridge are the near rocks.

9 hours ago, KC46Driver said:

 McConnell KC-135 out of T-38s? Woof.

Dude did not look very happy! Especially going after the guy who dropped a Raptor!

On 6/30/2025 at 9:23 AM, KC46Driver said:

McConnell KC-135 out of T-38s? Woof.

Shit, dudes are going to heavies now with no jet time.   He may not be happy but at least he'll have a few hours in a jet prior to learning to fly an air force mission.  

Besides; it could be worse, he could have dropped a UAV or  KC-46.  

Edited July 2Jul 2 by Biff_T
Words are hard

On 6/25/2025 at 6:55 PM, RANDOMDUDE13 said:

Curiosity killing the cat here. Do T-6 FAIPs go onto heavies now, or is it where they could track T-38s after their FAIP tour? Civilian here, just pure curiosity as to how assignments work currently out of USAF UPT. 

Affirmative, heavies only although the idea was considered.

XL 25-12AU assignables

4x T38

7x C17 (3x McChord, 2x Charleston, 1x Dover, 1x Hickam)

E3

KC135 Kadena

RC135

2x T6 FAIP

22 hours ago, Punk said:

Affirmative, heavies only although the idea was considered.

Thanks! I wasn't sure.

2 hours ago, RANDOMDUDE13 said:

Thanks! I wasn't sure.

To be clear, T-38 studs can still faip to a T-6 and then get a fighter. At least as of a few months ago. 

On 7/4/2025 at 11:55 PM, viper154 said:

To be clear, T-38 studs can still faip to a T-6 and then get a fighter. At least as of a few months ago. 

Ok, Thank You! On the heavy side of the house, do T-6 FAIPs that are assigned directly from the T-6 training go onto the T-1 sim then to their FAIP assignment, or is it straight UPT>IP Training>FAIP Assignment?

 

On 7/5/2025 at 11:12 PM, RANDOMDUDE13 said:

Ok, Thank You! On the heavy side of the house, do T-6 FAIPs that are assigned directly from the T-6 training go onto the T-1 sim then to their FAIP assignment, or is it straight UPT>IP Training>FAIP Assignment?

 

Yes it's the latter, non-T38 T6 FAIPS go from UPT T6s -> PIT -> FAIP tour -> straight to heavy FTU. No kind of T1 training exists for anyone anymore

And everything is still the same for T38-trained T6 FAIPs going to fighters. Since IFF is going away, new ones will do UPT T6s -> FBF (combined T38 UPT & IFF) -> T6 PIT -> T6 FAIP tour -> short T38 spinup -> B-Course

Edited July 7Jul 7 by Punk
Spelling, clarification

Columbus 25-11AF assignables (T38s from a few weeks ago)

F35 TBD
T38 FAIP
T6 FAIP Pensacola
C17 Charleston
KC46 McGuire
KC135 Fairchild

20 hours ago, Punk said:

Columbus 25-11AF assignables (T38s from a few weeks ago)

F35 TBD
T38 FAIP
T6 FAIP Pensacola
C17 Charleston
KC46 McGuire
KC135 Fairchild

T-6 FAIP to Pensacola? When did that start happening?