1200 fighter pilots short? Better make that 1500

It's almost like AFPC learned that if you stop sending people to a community for a while they start having a vacuum and need people again...that being said I give it another year or so before we swing back again.

Edited October 3, 20178 yr by YoungnDumb

2 minutes ago, YoungnDumb said:

It's almost like AFPC learned that if you stop sending people to a community for a while they start having a vacuum and need people again...that being said I give it another year or so before we swing back again.

I know dudes that graduated in Aug that are waiting until May for Holloman B-course. 

3 hours ago, FishBowl said:

I know dudes that graduated in Aug that are waiting until May for Holloman B-course. 

Same thing was happening in 2010.

57 minutes ago, Seriously said:

Same thing was happening in 2010.

Is this an active duty specific thing?  Do national guard get pushed through faster?

I ask because this was the case at Army IERW.  You would have guys waiting for months for their advanced course while the guard guys were turned around in a couple weeks.

ANG dudes don't wait that long.

4 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

ANG dudes don't wait that long.

Are Reserves typically pushed through pretty quick as well?

Guard, Reserves and Internationals purchase a slot for their folks in each training course.  These spots are pre-programmed by AETC so their people make it through the pipeline with minimal downtime between courses.  This saves a lot of $ with man-days, per diem and moving costs while providing the units with a predictable flow of personnel.

Edited October 3, 20178 yr by Tunes3

Heard a rumor that t-38 upt studs might be given an option to track towards f-18s since B courses are backed up. Any validity to that?

2 minutes ago, JJF0012 said:

Heard a rumor that t-38 upt studs might be given an option to track towards f-18s since B courses are backed up. Any validity to that?

Hornets? This is a joke, right? Are they going to cross commission into the Navy/USMC too?

On 8/8/2017 at 9:07 PM, Danger41 said:

Previous 2 posts are wrong. In my WIC class, there were at least 2 T-6 FAIPs going through fighter courses.

Being a T-6 vs T-38 FAIP has no bearing on follow on assignments. 

There was an offer at DLF of a spot to go fly Growlers to post-IFF dudes who were heading to the Viper. 3 year gig.

9 minutes ago, VMFA187 said:

Hornets? This is a joke, right? Are they going to cross commission into the Navy/USMC too?

I heard growlers I don't know if it's true 

2 minutes ago, Inertia17 said:

There was an offer at DLF of a spot to go fly Growlers to post-IFF dudes who were heading to the Viper. 3 year gig.

Does the AF typically offer exchange slots to junior guys? We generally only give them to Weapon School grads...

Just now, VMFA187 said:

Does the AF typically offer exchange slots to junior guys? We generally only give them to Weapon School grads...

Not sure, it certainly surprised us when we heard about it.

Does the AF typically offer exchange slots to junior guys? We generally only give them to Weapon School grads...

There is a pilot crisis. There are only junior guys...

Over in the CSO assignments thread the rumor seems to be resurfacing that studs might be dropping Growler EWO tour slots shortly. I guess in theory that would open up the possibility of occasional dual-AF crews flying Navy jets.

Edited October 6, 20178 yr by mb1685

I had a F-15C ANG student that I flew with in T-6s post on FB that he was now going to fly Growlers out west. I need to ask him how that happened.

Yep, we're rumored to get two Growlers this fiscal year. We'll see what happens, not holding my breath

 

Before y’all get too excited, remember they stood up that community with E-6b bubbas. 

They served a valuable purpose, but weren’t exactly the sharpest knives and didn’t run push it up fighter squadrons (socially). 

Fly EW off a boat with a bunch of seamen...gee, where do I sign up?? Never saw the appeal...

Whidbey Island as an assignment?  That would be cool.

38 minutes ago, matmacwc said:

Whidbey Island as an assignment?  That would be cool.

One of the best locations in the DoD in my opinion. Plus the mission would be great too. 

Can confirm.  Growlers were offered to a few Vance bubba's who were IFF complete.  Only one of them took it, the others turned it down for various reasons.  The guy who took it was an old student of mine.  Sounds like a 3 year gig out at Whidbey with a 5th gen follow on is what he was told (not promised mind you, just told).  Haven't heard anything about it dropping out of UPT though.

On the UPT note I heard an interesting rumor about the drops changing significantly for a while.  I guess the DLF OG said something along the lines of only 1 fighter per class from now on.

3 hours ago, YoungnDumb said:

Can confirm.  Growlers were offered to a few Vance bubba's who were IFF complete.  Only one of them took it, the others turned it down for various reasons.  The guy who took it was an old student of mine.  Sounds like a 3 year gig out at Whidbey with a 5th gen follow on is what he was told (not promised mind you, just told).  Haven't heard anything about it dropping out of UPT though.

On the UPT note I heard an interesting rumor about the drops changing significantly for a while.  I guess the DLF OG said something along the lines of only 1 fighter per class from now on.

Valid. They're not supposed to be dropping any direct from UPT. No changes for studs to be adding them to dream sheets, yet. AF dudes flying the growler won't be boat qual'd.

Leadership had a sit down with the -38 studs at END today and told them oprah is all out of vipers and to expect increased "opportunities" to fly other aircraft, but to not expect any MAF assets to drop. Basically, studs actually have to work hard to earn a fighter now.

GMAFB. This again? Fvck! When’s the next RIF being announced? Since we are obviously not learning any lessons from the last sh!tstorm we created.