21 minutes ago, flyingdutchman said:

On drop night at UPT, do students find out their first base along with their aircraft assignment, or do they find out their base assignment during/after FTU? 

In the middle of FTU.

It depends.  Every heavies assignment I ever saw drop came with a base attached.  The fighter guys usually saw their aircraft with the base as the FTU location.  I'll caveat that I haven't been to an assignment night since late 2008.

2 hours ago, flyingdutchman said:

On drop night at UPT, do students find out their first base along with their aircraft assignment, or do they find out their base assignment during/after FTU? 

AFPC does not know where they are going to send you until about half way through FTU like Jaded said. When you have almost another year till you arrive to your first CAF assignment, that is many VMLs away and AFPC has not been known to plan that far into the future well.

2 hours ago, flyingdutchman said:

On drop night at UPT, do students find out their first base along with their aircraft assignment, or do they find out their base assignment during/after FTU? 

MAF school houses are much shorter than CAF school houses.  Some -- like the KC-10 -- are in-house at their respective bases.  MAF co-pilot courses are typically a TDY enroute to a PCS which is why MAF assignments typically come with bases attached.  Yes, the C-130 school house is typically a PCS -- just barely.  CAF courses are a PCS where you find out your first operational base sometime during your B-course.

As for the FAIPs, well... 

HOW ABOUT THAT EN 16-08 DROP LAST WEEK... ANYBODY?!

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On drop night at UPT, do students find out their first base along with their aircraft assignment, or do they find out their base assignment during/after FTU? 

AFAIK, every non-CAF assignment will have the post-FTU location on drop night

Vance 17-07 Track Select 

9 T-38's: including 1 foreigner and 1 national guard, 2 are going to ENJJPT

10 T-1's: including 1 national guard

2 Helos

2 are going to ENJJPT

That's weird. Is there excess Phase III capacity at SPS? Under producing Phase II?
Regardless, I'd bet it's a welcome upgrade for the lucky two (Enid to WF).


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That's weird. Is there excess Phase III capacity at SPS? Under producing Phase II?

Regardless, I'd bet it's a welcome upgrade for the lucky two (Enid to WF).

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It's all three UPT bases sending people. There were a total of 6 sent last time. SPS has "excess capacity" in phase three. Don't not the root cause though.

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Pretty easy to have excess capacity when you take all additional duties and deployments that the T-38 guys were doing and force them on the T-6 guys.

"yeah i liked the atmosphere back in mq-1's better...i miss it"

Maybe your sq sucks; I'd be more worried if the attitude issues were things like not studying tactics etc. But I was really referring to the flying problems. At face value, turning left isn't different from one airframe to the next.


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On this topic, are there any former CSO, current pilots I could chat a bit with about being late rated in your airframes? Thanks!

does not suck. 

attitude of new guy does suck. 

every plane with a sensor is now ISR at some capacity.

Still nothing of substance. You're essentially just bashing someone on a difference of opinion.

And your sq environment could absolutely be terrible without you knowing, if for instance you're the prick commander's pet and you just don't see it because your world is rainbows and unicorns.

23 hours ago, Spaceballs said:

On this topic, are there any former CSO, current pilots I could chat a bit with about being late rated in your airframes? Thanks!

Former F15E WSO, flying Vipers now. Shoot me a PM if you'd like.

On this topic, are there any former CSO, current pilots I could chat a bit with about being late rated in your airframes? Thanks!

Former slick C-130 Nav, now flying slick C-130's...PM me if you want


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Thanks for formatting it like an ATO excerpt.


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whatever bro i'm not going to convince you if you want more PM me...otherwise i could give a what you believe my squadron environment is.

new assignments out friday what are the results?

and why can't i say f*ck?

Good cop out.

Mom and dad are fighting again. :(

How about back to tracks and assignments?  

Fighters for everybody now? SP's getting non-vol'd to fighters. The struggle is real. 

whatever bro

Nice use of the escalatory "bro" to convey sh1t just got real.



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go fck yourself PM me if you want more info no other poster gives two $hits about this "argument"

let's get back on track (no pun intended) and let's see some assignment night results 

If you're going to publicly call some dude out for being a terrible pilot and having a terrible attitude, back it up. Otherwise, don't do it.

go fck yourself PM me if you want more info no other poster gives two $hits about this "argument"

Actually I'm curious to hear details.

EN 16-08
AD
F-15E x 1
F-15C x 1
F-16 x 4
B-1 x 2 
T-38C FAIP

Guard
F-22 x 1
F-16 x 2

Foreign
Danish F-16 x 3
Italian Eurofighter
Norwegian F-16 x 6
German Eurofighter x 2
 

First i didn't publicly call out anyone...i called out nameless and anonymous ex-drone FNGs

Except communities are small and people can easily figure out who you're talking about. Far more "anonymous" than anonymous.

ok fine. radio calls too long...singing radio calls, unable to prioritize checklist running appropriately, telling the IP how he (stud) is right when he's wrong (talking about a local departure procedure), not sure how to work sensor, etc etc etc. extreme quibbling every time IP gave any type of correction/instruction "yeah i know that", "yeah i was about to do that"...always had to have the last word...

Finally. Previously you just sounded like a butt hurt whiner, frankly. No, I'd agree these are not great, and things like "unsure how to work sensor" absolutely go back to a concern I listed previously, not studying tactics.