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So as the board results slide further right, the risk of accountability dates happening before promotion announcements becomes a definite possibility. 

You'd think we do this promotion board thing a few times a year or something and would establish some sort of repeatable process. If we can’t even get the simple things done like pushing out results, how are we as a service supposed to trust that the hard part like selecting promotees is done right?

Edited September 7, 20187 yr by war007afa
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If we can’t even get the simple things done like pushing out results, how are we as a service supposed to trust that the hard part like selecting promotees is done right?

It isn’t.

Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time.

Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time.

Say what? Is continuation going to be automatic, with no option to decline?


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13 hours ago, Duck said:

Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time.

Unpopular opinion... But if you took the bonus and the accompanying ADSC, you knew what you were signing up for. I'd personally be all for forcing folks with an ADSC for the bonus to serve it the remainder, regardless of promotion results.

14 hours ago, Duck said:

Any chance that this pushes to the right far enough that the new promotion rules kick in? I have a couple friends who are once passed over Majors on the bonus ADSC looking to bail. Since the new NDAA gets rid of up or out that would screw them big time.

What are you talking about?  What are the new promotion rules?

My understanding is that the new NDAA mostly handed over the rules to the DoD versus them being in Federal code. So yes there is no law now requiring up or out but the my understanding is that the DoD has to draft new guidance and they could choose to keep it.

https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/08/15/what-hidden-deep-2019-defense-bill-affects-you.html

I just read this article that stated up or out is basically repealed and that it would be up to the Service Secretaries. Just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know several O-4 bonus or late-rate guys with airline jobs lined up expecting the second Passover and release to happen in the next 2 months.

2 hours ago, Duck said:

https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/08/15/what-hidden-deep-2019-defense-bill-affects-you.html

I just read this article that stated up or out is basically repealed and that it would be up to the Service Secretaries. Just wondering if anyone had heard anything. I know several O-4 bonus or late-rate guys with airline jobs lined up expecting the second Passover and release to happen in the next 2 months.

Fixed. The. Glitch. 

Along the lines of up or out going away, is anyone hearing anything about why this board is at the CJCS? Is it like the last Majors board where they are promoting a bunch of APZ guys. One the upside, at least I can laugh that I will be gettting my notification for the next board and my results from this board the same week.

19 hours ago, pawnman said:

Unpopular opinion... But if you took the bonus and the accompanying ADSC, you knew what you were signing up for. I'd personally be all for forcing folks with an ADSC for the bonus to serve it the remainder, regardless of promotion results.

This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try.

1 hour ago, Ash said:

This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try.

They will just go back to doing PRFs and kicking out the bottom 10% of captains

Has anyone seen the '18 ANG O-5 promotion results yet? IIRC, public release is tomorrow...

On 9/8/2018 at 2:10 PM, Ash said:

This is more complicated then simply retaining officers after two failures to promote. Congressional end strength numbers need to be considered; which means retaining passed over FGOs would have a trickle down effect, prolonging the years spent as a captain until a vacancy at the O-4 level appears.  Given AFPCs  current track record at planning for end strength I am highly skeptical that they would get this right on the first try.

Given how fast senior captains and FGOs are bailing, I think we'll have some time before this becomes a problem.  We're already shifting boards left due to the number of unfilled FGO slots.  Step one would just be to move them back to the right, where they were historically for the past decade.

Has anyone seen the '18 ANG O-5 promotion results yet? IIRC, public release is tomorrow...

Yes. Got them yesterday.


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On 9/8/2018 at 8:04 AM, ruckerstud said:

Along the lines of up or out going away, is anyone hearing anything about why this board is at the CJCS? Is it like the last Majors board where they are promoting a bunch of APZ guys. One the upside, at least I can laugh that I will be gettting my notification for the next board and my results from this board the same week.

^great question....was wondering this same thing myself

On 9/16/2018 at 3:25 PM, MooseClub said:

^great question....was wondering this same thing myself

I'm wondering if I should get to work on my PRF. At least there won't be a ton of new info to add, since there's no way I'll get another OPR between now and the March board date.

Anyone know how to find pin-on dates for AFRC O-5 promotions?

Anyone know how to find pin-on dates for AFRC O-5 promotions?

Should be 1 Oct, first day of the new FY unless your local leadership holds you to 7-yr ROPMA. Which is stupid if they do.

MyPers says CY18 LT COL (LAF) results will be publicly released on 10 Oct at 0900 CDT. Wish everyone the best of luck. 

 

 

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good luck everyone!   That means results are out there with the FSS and wing leadership.  

Has anyone been notified yet? If not, when will Sq/CC’s get access to the list?

6 minutes ago, sirjrod00 said:

Has anyone been notified yet? If not, when will Sq/CC’s get access to the list?

Installation-specific when it’s released to SQ/CCs. Typically day-prior in order to enable notification to those who didn’t make it. 

Most should have prior to the weekend in order to tell their folks.   Nothing worse than having to wait the entire weekend to find out and not be able to celebrate or get over a let down over a long weekend