Tactical Tanker

[Clark Griswold]

6 hours ago, AC&W said:

Israeli boom operators are gonna love the KC-46 remote vision system compared to what they currently have, haha.  

My guess is they will replace immediately what doesn’t work as well as something they might have that works better

 

[Sua Sponte]

9 hours ago, AC&W said:

I think a combination of poor contract requirements, and Boeing intentionally delivering a product in need of an immediate upgrades is the recipe. Its a feature, not a bug.

The upgrade Boeing has for the KC-46 vision system is phenomenal, they just need the cash stream to flow in.

RVS 2.0 also includes a framework for autonomous AR.

[AC&W]

6 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

My guess is they will replace immediately what doesn’t work as well as something they might have that works better

 

Concur. The vision system on their 707 tanker is well ahead of it's time.

[Lawman]

My guess is they will replace immediately what doesn’t work as well as something they might have that works better
 

I see you’ve Boeing’ed before…

“Hey guys here’s version 6… massive improvements and upgrades over 4… sorry about taking away the ability to enroute RNAV.”


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[Clark Griswold]

Bombardier pitching the 8000 as platform for tanker

https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/bombardier-pitches-global-vip-transport-tanker-usaf
 

[StoleIt]

44 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Bombardier pitching the 8000 as platform for tanker

https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/bombardier-pitches-global-vip-transport-tanker-usaf
 

Paywall.

But, of topic, I'm curious what VIP aircraft it is aiming to replace...

[Clark Griswold]

Paywall.
But, of topic, I'm curious what VIP aircraft it is aiming to replace...

Yeah I should’ve caveated that
I guess the C-37 is what they wanna replace / supplement
My druthers… a new large cabin jet converted for mil use needs to be the basis for a tanker, arsenal, awacs, medivac, vip transport
I think a small airliner would work better for all that but just my two cents


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[Lawman]

Yeah I should’ve caveated that
I guess the C-37 is what they wanna replace / supplement
My druthers… a new large cabin jet converted for mil use needs to be the basis for a tanker, arsenal, awacs, medivac, vip transport
I think a small airliner would work better for all that but just my two cents


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If we’re serious about disaggregating formations to provide for Survivability, it would make loads more sense to start using things that can be hidden more easily than an airliner sized aircraft.

Let alone discuss what that buys in flexibility of ramp space.


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[Sua Sponte]

1 hour ago, Lawman said:

If we’re serious about disaggregating formations to provide for Survivability, it would make loads more sense to start using things that can be hidden more easily than an airliner sized aircraft.

Let alone discuss what that buys in flexibility of ramp space.


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Curious how you aerial refuel bombers, airlift, and consolidate into other tankers without being an airliner sized aircraft and still having the ability to give a 40K+ offload?

Edited 5 hours ago by Sua Sponte

[DirkDiggler]

AF is currently progged to buy Bombardier bizjets to replace C-146 NSav.

Edited 6 hours ago by DirkDiggler

[Lawman]

Curious how you aerial refuel bombers, airlift, and consolidate into other tankers without being an airliner sized aircraft and still having the ability to give a 40K+ offload?

Curious how you missed the rest of the mission sets listed that we currently do with 707 or similar massive footprint aircraft.

Yeah having one boom to rule them all or a massive grey tail disgorging masses of equipment is great, it also means you need a Ramp the size of multiple football fields and buildings that can be seen from space. In an age of democratized information collection, near real time targeting, and the proliferation of ways to go kinetic from ballistic missiles to things that fit in a back pack, maybe having a giant grey airplane isn’t the sole way we should be fighting.

If an opponent like China is willing to get caught sticking stuff in our critical infrastructure that can only serve as a lever to pull in a big war fight, does anybody honestly believe they would avoid hitting things like Honolulu or JBLM with a sleeper capability.


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