August 31, 201213 yr https://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123316390 WTF! Are transient aircrew and army still staying in tents? Folks still get tax free for being there?
August 31, 201213 yr Now that wives are there, what are they going to do with the article 15s of everyone who got busted for going into their spouses room to talk with the door open?
September 1, 201213 yr No mention of specifically what base they're on. Keep it secret... and tell the dependents to keep their blindfolds on.
September 1, 201213 yr I just threw up a little. Champ already said it, but it bears repeating. I like the active duty less and less each day.
September 1, 201213 yr So they're sending dependents to a base where you still get CZTE? Do the kids get to go to the SF Squadron and put on battle rattle and hold an M-4 to show all their friends what they got to do on their deployment? Will your wife get chiefed at 3 am if she goes to the bathroom without a reflective belt on? Will she get an Article 15 if she lets another spouse have one of her 3 drinks per day? This raises so many questions that will require at least twelve more chiefs, seven more execs and five more directors of staff out there to solve.
September 1, 201213 yr So they're sending dependents to a base where you still get CZTE? Do the kids get to go to the SF Squadron and put on battle rattle and hold an M-4 to show all their friends what they got to do on their deployment? Will your wife get chiefed at 3 am if she goes to the bathroom without a reflective belt on? Will she get an Article 15 if she lets another spouse have one of her 3 drinks per day? This raises so many questions that will require at least twelve more chiefs, seven more execs and five more directors of staff out there to solve. They live downtown. It is a PCS.
September 1, 201213 yr So one question? Can we take our families with us to Korea if we get sent there? Or are those still just a 365? So why don't we just make those PCS locals as well since there is no danger what so ever I Korea but we have known threats in that aor. There is just so many reasons why this is a bad idea. I wonder how many divorces this will create because of this locale. Hell I think Cannon just got upgraded from one of the worst locale's to not so bad anymore. Edited September 1, 201213 yr by cragspider
September 1, 201213 yr So one question? Can we take our families with us to Korea if we get sent there? Or are those still just a 365? So why don't we just make those PCS locals as well since there is no danger what so ever I Korea but we have known threats in that aor. There is just so many reasons why this is a bad idea. I wonder how many divorces this will create because of this local. Hell I think Cannon just got upgraded from one of the worst locals to not so bad anymore. I believe the word you are searching for is "locale". "Local", when used as a noun, refers to someone who lives in the area.
September 1, 201213 yr Hell I think Cannon just got upgraded from one of the worst locals to not so bad anymore. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here... This is a joke, how can you say you're an "Expeditionary" anything when you have the wife and kids along for the ride?
September 1, 201213 yr Moving all my wife's shoes and knick knacks halfway around the world would be quite an expedition.
September 1, 201213 yr They live downtown. It is a PCS. But apparently they're allowed on base, no? I'm assuming that's where the A&FRC is. Still the opportunity to get chiefed. Are dependents allowed in the man-stew, I mean base swimming pool? That could be interesting.
September 1, 201213 yr What will happen to the family if the member is deported out of the country for doing something as stupid as handing the agents your ID card in the wrong hand? Or slapping your ID card on the counter? Or going the wrong way through a doorway? etc etc etc. Is there going to be a culture class for spouses? So we know how to act in public, and, yes, even what is appropriate to wear? I understand that it's not Saudi and maybe not as strict, but still, we should be mindful and respectful of that culture. Well, the plus side for my family: We were medically denied England. I highly doubt we'll be authorized or medically cleared to go here. Just my $0.02 as a spouse. Edited September 1, 201213 yr by The Kayla
September 1, 201213 yr Heard they're building privatized housing on base to meet the future demand...
September 1, 201213 yr Heard they're building privatized housing on base to meet the future demand... That is in Tunisia. Check the map, just south of the Gulf of Gabes.
September 2, 201213 yr Well, the plus side for my family: We were medically denied England. I highly doubt we'll be authorized or medically cleared to go here. Just my $0.02 as a spouse. Thread derail here, but ... DON"T GO OVERSEAS UNLESS YOU'RE CLEARED!
September 2, 201213 yr So one question? Can we take our families with us to Korea if we get sent there? Or are those still just a 365? So why don't we just make those PCS locals as well since there is no danger what so ever I Korea but we have known threats in that aor. There is just so many reasons why this is a bad idea. I wonder how many divorces this will create because of this locale. Hell I think Cannon just got upgraded from one of the worst locale's to not so bad anymore. Don't confuse the base with the city. Doha isn't terrible, while Clovis is. There is a TON of stuff to do in Doha and a lot of fun to be had there. The reason that undisclosed location sucks so bad is 100% the fault of the Americans and their asine policies. All indications point to that base not going anywhere... ever. I have heard MANY different senior leaders express the desire to make it "The Ramstein of the middle east". With that said, I think we need as many spouses there as possible, because as this thread highlights, the "normalcy" of having spouses there runs counter to the idiocy of that base, and may actually go a long way to get the place changed for the better.
September 3, 201213 yr Don't confuse the base with the city. Doha isn't terrible, while Clovis is. There is a TON of stuff to do in Doha and a lot of fun to be had there. The reason that undisclosed location sucks so bad is 100% the fault of the Americans and their asine policies. All indications point to that base not going anywhere... ever. I have heard MANY different senior leaders express the desire to make it "The Ramstein of the middle east". With that said, I think we need as many spouses there as possible, because as this thread highlights, the "normalcy" of having spouses there runs counter to the idiocy of that base, and may actually go a long way to get the place changed for the better. My wife would skip the divorce option and go straight to murder if I moved her to a Muslim country where it is 110 in the shade for 6 months out of the year, no matter how many fancy malls and cultural centers they build.
September 3, 201213 yr I love how everyone just assumes that the entirety of the middle east is literally Afghanistan. Please show me where anybody in this thread wrote anything even remotely similar to that. From what I can tell (except for the post AFTER yours) people on here have been making fun of having dependents at the mutha fuckin' 'Deid.
September 3, 201213 yr Please show me where anybody in this thread wrote anything even remotely similar to that. From what I can tell (except for the post AFTER yours) people on here have been making fun of having dependents at the mutha fuckin' 'Deid Undisclosed location in SW Asia. OPSEC!
September 3, 201213 yr https://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=130101&page=1#.UETObJY8XEM......OPSEC is slightly marginalized in this instance.
September 3, 201213 yr Don't confuse the base with the city. Doha isn't terrible, while Clovis is. There is a TON of stuff to do in Doha and a lot of fun to be had there. The reason that undisclosed location sucks so bad is 100% the fault of the Americans and their asine policies. All indications point to that base not going anywhere... ever. I have heard MANY different senior leaders express the desire to make it "The Ramstein of the middle east". With that said, I think we need as many spouses there as possible, because as this thread highlights, the "normalcy" of having spouses there runs counter to the idiocy of that base, and may actually go a long way to get the place changed for the better. We must not have been to the same Doha. That place is an absolute shithole.
September 3, 201213 yr We must not have been to the same Doha. That place is an absolute shithole. Disagree...Doha certainly isn't my first choice for cities (or weather for that matter) but shithole may be a little extreme. Anywhere with air conditioning and passable food and satellite TV and people driving Mercedes Benz SUVs does not qualify as a shithole in the grand scheme of the world. As an overseas PCS it's way behind Europe and Japan on my list but for a "deployed location" it's pretty freaking ok. Edited September 3, 201213 yr by nsplayr
September 3, 201213 yr We must not have been to the same Doha. That place is an absolute shithole. No, THIS is an absolute shithole.
September 3, 201213 yr Oh ok, I guess your browser is broken or something and won't let you scroll up... I went back and scrolled up...still don't see anyone comparing Doha to Afcrapistan.
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