"Heavy" question. I have searched many resources including the pilot/controller glossary, FAAO 7110.65 and the AIM. Are military aircraft exempt from using the Heavy suffix on their callsign when talking to ATC? The reason I ask is because here at Dyess you never hear a BONE check in as Hawk 11 Heavy, although at Dyess it's pretty much assumed.

I don't think we've ever appended "heavy" ourselves, but ATC often appends "heavy" in their responses.

11-202V3 section on flight violations (doesn't deal directly with noise complaints but noise should be more restrictive since it probably isn't a rules violation):

Thanks. Just what I was looking for.

I don't think we've ever appended "heavy" ourselves, but ATC often appends "heavy" in their responses.

Holy thread revival!

I don't think we've ever appended "heavy" ourselves, but ATC often appends "heavy" in their responses.

ATC guy here.

Any aircraft with a possible max gross takeoff weight of 300,000 lbs or more is considered a heavy regardless of payload. It's a wake turbulence thing, more separation has to be provided for smaller aircraft behind a heavy. For wake turbulence aircraft are broken into a couple categories, Small, Small Plus, Large, Heavy and Super (A380 and the An-225 are the only two in this category for now). It all depends on possible MGTW.

I thought it was 255K for classification as a heavy.

I thought it was 255K for classification as a heavy.

Yeah I think it used to be different, that number definitely sounds familiar. I believe the classes were revised recently when the 'Super' category was created, previously A380 and An-225 aircraft were considered Larges. But it's plain as day in the 7110.65 aircraft specifications index at 300,000 lbs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-probe-why-las-vegas-airport-controller-slurred-words-went-n935081?fbclid=IwAR1PHwQs3zA3e4WE78gsUuwyPyN1I2CucVAN8YznfNlOu3lIEElqko7is5w

Air traffic controller became incapacitated and went silent while working a night shift alone in the tower at busy McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas.

Sounds like a stroke...

Definitely a stroke hearing this...scary stuff

Edited November 12, 20187 yr by ayz33

wow... she was struggling worse then other reports made it sound.  That's terrible... hope she is ok.  Not sure if I would follow some of those calls, but I guess I've heard worse... however, usually OCONUS.

5 hours ago, ayz33 said:

Definitely a stroke hearing this...scary stuff

Negative. I thought it was a stroke as well. Apparently it was a .32 BAC. She was terminated by the FAA already. 

 

Edit: here’s a link https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/incapacitated-las-vegas-air-traffic-controller-no-longer-with-faa-1525525/

a medical issue wouldn’t result in her not working there within 2 business days...

Edited November 13, 20187 yr by FlyArmy

We'll see if it's an actual termination.  Seems very very fast for that.  A resignation, maybe...and that's been rumored.

Lots of rumor out there and little factual info.

.32?? How would that even happen considering there was another worker there who was just on break for a short while

.32?? How would that even happen considering there was another worker there who was just on break for a short while

Water bottle full of vodka would be my guess.


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11 hours ago, FlyArmy said:

Negative. I thought it was a stroke as well. Apparently it was a .32 BAC. She was terminated by the FAA already. 

 

Edit: here’s a link https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/incapacitated-las-vegas-air-traffic-controller-no-longer-with-faa-1525525/

a medical issue wouldn’t result in her not working there within 2 business days...

Where in that article did it say .32BAC? 

The 0.32 BAC is a rumored number floating around (I also read 0.34).  Again, rumors of termination, resignation, and suspension (which in reality would be administrative leave).  I believe the incident occurred last thursday, right?  I heard about it friday...and immediate administrative action is certainly unlikely over a 3-day weekend (which most admin stretches into a 4-day'er).  But I'm guessing we'll see it on all the national news media very soon.

An ATC guy who said he knows her said on a different forum that it was an alcohol issue. The other part of the rumor floating around is that she was on probation after a previous alcohol issue (DUI earlier in the year was the rumor). That would explain the quick departure. The FAA has said she no longer works there. A medical issue, or a non probational termination, would likely take longer than 2 business days I would think. Hopefully more facts are released.