Song of praise?

[Gas Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo

Couldn't get the video to embed. Basically kids being indoctrinated. After the song I'm sure they were all given a copy of the Communist Manifesto to memorize. What country am I living in again????

[nsplayr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zrsl8o4ZPo

Couldn't get the video to embed Fixed for ya. (type bracket media close-bracket before and bracket backslash close-bracket after the link...i can't actually type it and have it show up...)

Basically kids being indoctrinated. After the song I'm sure they were all given a copy of the Communist Manifesto to memorize. What country am I living in again????

Wow...what was the teacher thinking?? BTW brainwashing doesn't = communism...it makes no sense when people use "bad" terms interchangeably (i.e. communism=nazi=pol pot=facism=socialism).

But none-the-less... on the teacher because the kid's don't know any better

Edited September 24, 2009 by nsplayr

[sky_king]

Godwin's law timer.... aaaaaaaaand hack.

[Gas Man]

Wow...what was the teacher thinking?? BTW brainwashing doesn't = communism...it makes no sense when people use "bad" terms interchangeably (i.e. communism=nazi=pol pot=facism=socialism).

But none-the-less... on the teacher because the kid's don't know any better

You are right. I did jump to conclusions. What was I thinking. What other countries have school kids singing praises to their leaders? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me think........ North Korea, China, Viet Nam, Cuba.

I was way out of line using "bad" terms. There is no link what so ever. My bad.

[FlyingBull]

nsplayr is right that not all authoritarian forms of government are interchangeable. Fascists do not get along with Communists for instance.

Whatever teacher thought this was a good idea should be fired. Politics should not be anywhere near the classroom.

Edited September 25, 2009 by FlyingBull

[nsplayr]

nsplayr is right that not all authoritarian forms of government are interchangeable. Fascists do not get along with Communists for instance.

Thank you for being intelligent. Being a communist and being authoritarian and/or undertaking brainwashing are not the same thing. I laugh every time people call someone they don't like a nazi or a communist or both because apparently they have no idea what those things actually are.

Whatever...not what the thread is supposed to be about...here's what teachers should be doing:

Edited September 25, 2009 by nsplayr

[tac airlifter]

Whatever...not what the thread is supposed to be about...here's what teachers should be doing:

Well played sir.

[HerkDerka]

You are right. I did jump to conclusions. What was I thinking. What other countries have school kids singing praises to their leaders? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me think........ North Korea, China, Viet Nam, Cuba.

S-H-A-C-K

HD

[Guest Krabs]

Maybe it was a private school.

You obviously did not go to a private school.

I quit. I'm just going to stare at that picture for a while.

The only logical response. Ditto, and well played

Edited September 25, 2009 by Krabs

[Jake_65_65]

Being a communist and being authoritarian and/or undertaking brainwashing are not the same thing. I laugh every time people call someone they don't like a nazi or a communist or both because apparently they have no idea what those things actually are.

Seriously? I think most people have a pretty good idea that there are differences between fascism, communism, etc., etc. And for the record I fail to see how the original poster used "bad" terms interchangeably, he simply drew a comparison between the indoctrination of American school kids and that which occurs under communist regimes. My god! What a nutjob!

[Guest SATCOM]

All I know is that Mao would be proud.

[summe32c]

YGTBFFM

[usaf36031]

The real question is why all of you are wasting time posting on an internet forum when you know damn well that you should be practicing the words to the song of praise...

Dear Leader would not approve...

[MKopack]

A message from my friend Scott:

Since Dr. Denise King (Email Dr. King) has decided to turn her elementary school into an Obama adoration zone instead of a place to learn....oh I don't know, things elementary school kids ought to learn, I called her this morning to express my disdain at such actions.....maybe you ought to as well. Also, perhaps Burlington Township School District superintendent Dr. Christopher Manno (609 387 1713) ought to be advised that he might want to find a leader at Young Elementary that's more concerned with improving her school's education rating and less with presidential politics.

The B. Bernice Young Elementary School

1203 Neck Road, Burlington, NJ 08016

Phone: (609) 386-3520

Fax: (609) 239-3532

I'm just sayin'......

[Guest IslandBum]

You are right. I did jump to conclusions. What was I thinking. What other countries have school kids singing praises to their leaders? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me think........ North Korea, China, Viet Nam, Cuba.

It's worth mentioning that when I was a kid, in public school, we sang songs and had plays about Presidents Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt. There were also times when we drew and wrote about Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy and President Reagan (I was in elementary/middle school in the 1980's). I guess the difference is here that maybe he's been in office like 6-9 months?? Too early for songs?? Or that it's not the 1980's?

Edited October 14, 2009 by IslandBum

[skinny]

It's worth mentioning that when I was a kid, in SC public school, we sang songs and had plays about Presidents Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt. There were also times when we drew and wrote about Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy and President Reagan (I was in elementary/middle school in the 1980's). I guess the difference is here that maybe he's been in office like 6-9 months?? Too early for songs?? Or that it's not the 1980's?

I think the difference is that those people you mentioned actually ACCOMPLISHED something of historical value. Yes, he's the first African American President, but isn't just stating that fact racist in and of itself? Why can't he just be the 44th President? We don't refer to W. as the 43rd Anglo-Saxon President do we? But other than this singular fact that he "overcame oppression" while he was growing up in Hawaii (one of the most culturally diverse states we have), what could possibly be worthy of writing about him in a history book. In other words, what could there possibly be about him that is so great that we need to teach it in elementary school? Nothing. These kids need to be learning arithmetic, the alphabet, and most importantly how to get the pretty girls to play on the jungle gym with them.

Dr. King and Presidents Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, et al SHOULD have their places in our history books (which is where I'm assuming you read/sang about them). What is this Obama worshiping song teaching those kids about anything other than what the schools leadership wants them to sing about? And all this while The Pledge of Allegiance is being slowly being BANNED from schools? Just doesn't seem right to me.

Sidenote: I recently visited the beaches of Normandy. If you ever have the chance, please check it out, it's a pretty damn humbling experience. To my dismay, while wondering through one of the gift shops, I saw it. The biggest most noticeable book on the shelf was a book about the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama. WTF is that book doing anywhere near the sands where tens of thousands of service men gave their lives? Granted I was in France so that explains a lot right there but really, it kinda made me sick how infatuated the world has become with this guy without knowing how his Presidency is going to turn out.

Cheers...

[08Dawg]

[FlyingBull]

I think the difference is that those people you mentioned actually ACCOMPLISHED something of historical value. Yes, he's the first African American President, but isn't just stating that fact racist in and of itself? Why can't he just be the 44th President? We don't refer to W. as the 43rd Anglo-Saxon President do we? But other than this singular fact that he "overcame oppression" while he was growing up in Hawaii (one of the most culturally diverse states we have), what could possibly be worthy of writing about him in a history book. In other words, what could there possibly be about him that is so great that we need to teach it in elementary school? Nothing. These kids need to be learning arithmetic, the alphabet, and most importantly how to get the pretty girls to play on the jungle gym with them.

Dr. King and Presidents Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, et al SHOULD have their places in our history books (which is where I'm assuming you read/sang about them). What is this Obama worshiping song teaching those kids about anything other than what the schools leadership wants them to sing about? And all this while The Pledge of Allegiance is being slowly being BANNED from schools? Just doesn't seem right to me.

Sidenote: I recently visited the beaches of Normandy. If you ever have the chance, please check it out, it's a pretty damn humbling experience. To my dismay, while wondering through one of the gift shops, I saw it. The biggest most noticeable book on the shelf was a book about the inauguration of Barack Hussein Obama. WTF is that book doing anywhere near the sands where tens of thousands of service men gave their lives? Granted I was in France so that explains a lot right there but really, it kinda made me sick how infatuated the world has become with this guy without knowing how his Presidency is going to turn out.

Cheers...

Pointing out he is the first black President isn't racist. It's just a fact.

As to the bolded portion, he is the currently elected President. The most popular President since Reagan and the first African American to hold the office. Why wouldn't the bookstore want to make some money off that? Are you a dirty commie who hates profit?

Also what is wrong with his book/picture being near where servicemen gave their lives? You should really tone down your partisan goggles.

Edited September 25, 2009 by FlyingBull

[Gas Man]

Blah blah blah blah...........The most popular President since Reagan and the first African American to hold the office...... Words, words, more words.... You should really tone down your partisan goggles.

Survey says......... Bullshit!

All of the lemmings are starting to open their eyes.

http://www.pollingreport.com/obama_job.htm

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob1.htm

Before you click on the links would you like to retract your statement about who was the more popular president?

What was that last part about partisan goggles again???????

[skinny]

Pointing out he is the first black President isn't racist. It's just a fact.

As to the bolded portion, he is the currently elected President. The most popular President since Reagan and the first African American to hold the office. Why wouldn't the bookstore want to make some money off that? Are you a dirty commie who hates profit?

Also what is wrong with his book/picture being near where servicemen gave their lives? You should really tone down your partisan goggles.

Telling kids to put on earmuffs so you can curse is also fact, doesn't mean you have to celebrate it Franky. The more people concentrate on that fact, the longer it will be an issue. And if you ask me, that's a huge reason for his election.

What's wrong with the book being in the gift shop at Normandy? I'll answer this with a question right back, why SHOULD it be there? Did he contribute somehow to the liberation of countless European nations? What did he sacrifice in WWII? By toning down my partisan goggles, would that happen to include singing praises of President Obama at the next Roll Call? Hmmm......I'll pass.

[nsplayr]

You are right. I did jump to conclusions. What was I thinking. What other countries have school kids singing praises to their leaders? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, let me think........ North Korea, China, Viet Nam, Cuba.

Or how about Great Britain and Nazi Germany? God Save the King/Queen is the freaking national anthem (yes, I realize the King/Queen isn't actually the political leader of the country anymore), and kids sang songs praising Hitler when he was in charge. My entire point is that brainwashing does not equal communism! How is this freaking hard to understand?? The fact that many dictatorships/authoritarians have been communists (in name at least) in recent years is coincidental. Authoritarian leaders were ruling the world and having children sing songs about them long before Marx and Mao and Stalin were ever born.

It's worth mentioning that when I was a kid, in SC public school, we sang songs and had plays about Presidents Washington, Lincoln and Roosevelt. There were also times when we drew and wrote about Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy and President Reagan (I was in elementary/middle school in the 1980's). I guess the difference is here that maybe he's been in office like 6-9 months?? Too early for songs?? Or that it's not the 1980's?

I don't remember elementary school that well, but when you sang songs about Reagan was he the sitting President? Honestly I wouldn't have kids sing about a current political leader because some A-hole would post it on youtube and start a controversy about it, but it's really not that bad. Kids should be taught to respect the President (no matter who it is) and elementary kids sing songs about everything in order to learn. Even if you think all of this is brainwashing and are calling the school district, I'm sure these kids will have plenty of opportunity to pick up their partisan views at home as they get a little older and either way by time they can vote Obama will be old and washed up.

I think the difference is that those people you mentioned actually ACCOMPLISHED something of historical value...in other words, what could there possibly be about him that is so great that we need to teach it in elementary school?

I think you're undervaluing having a positive role model for black kids. Everyone always complains that rappers and basketball players are terrible role models for kids, so how about a black guy who's actually accomplished something a little better than rapping or being good at sports? Anyways, you'll probably just think that's racist, but BL kids want to look up to someone who looks like them (should be their parents but that's not always possible).

WTF is that book doing anywhere near the sands where tens of thousands of service men gave their lives?...it kinda made me sick how infatuated the world has become with this guy without knowing how his Presidency is going to turn out.

Sorry, did you miss all the books that come out every election cycle about the newly elected President? This is capitalism at work my friend...something significant happens that everyone's aware of (like an election), and people write books about it trying to squeeze a couple dollars out of people's excitement. Just look at Michael Crabtree who's demanding more money out of the 49ers when he hadn't done sh*t in the NFL yet...our country values the new and the highly-touted versus the proven and well-worn.

Finally...why is no one else catching on to the teacher thing?

Edit: Forgot to add...this should be about how stupid the teacher was and not about the President at all really...unless you think he's controlling all this behind the scenes. If so then I'm sorry.

Edited September 26, 2009 by nsplayr

[skinny]

I think you're undervaluing having a positive role model for black kids. Everyone always complains that rappers and basketball players are terrible role models for kids, so how about a black guy who's actually accomplished something a little better than rapping or being good at sports? Anyways, you'll probably just think that's racist, but BL kids want to look up to someone who looks like them (should be their parents but that's not always possible).

Sorry, did you miss all the books that come out every election cycle about the newly elected President? This is capitalism at work my friend...something significant happens that everyone's aware of (like an election), and people write books about it trying to squeeze a couple dollars out of people's excitement. Just look at Michael Crabtree who's demanding more money out of the 49ers when he hadn't done sh*t in the NFL yet...our country values the new and the highly-touted versus the proven and well-worn.

Finally...why is no one else catching on to the teacher thing?

Edit: Forgot to add...this should be about how stupid the teacher was and not about the President at all really...unless you think he's controlling all this behind the scenes. If so then I'm sorry.

Good points nsplayer, I would have to agree that President Obama is a much better role model for young impressionable Africa-America children than the likes of say Kanye West. I also have to agree that this really should be about the teacher and in no way am I thinking the President had absolutely anything to do with this debacle.

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