July 30, 200619 yr so I get that it's almost impossible to go fromheavy to fighter; but what about heavy to bomber?
July 30, 200619 yr I know that a couple of years ago C-21 guys were allowed to go over to the B-2. I don't think that its an option anymore though.
July 30, 200619 yr Originally posted by HerkDerka: The B-2 is an open program. No MWS prerequisite. HD So I guess you'd get your -38 qual in house @ Whiteman (for the heavy guys)? Kind of like how they do things for the U-2 @ Beale?
July 30, 200619 yr AFPC sent the B-2 application process to all of the MAJCOMs a few months back. I remember it specifically stating that you had to have been tracked into the T-38 and that no airlift/tanker pilots were eligible. I would look at trying to get the T-38 qual, and the easiest way that I know of in applying/accepting the U-2 and doing your time there: U-2 Info From here, you'll get the T-38 qual, and will have a better chance. I don't know or have ever heard of this happening though... (Heavy vs. U-2 vs. B-2)
July 30, 200619 yr I remember seeing a message about a AMC-ACC exchange program for pilots/navs a few years ago. Might be something to look into. PBAR
July 31, 200619 yr Originally posted by HerkDerka: The B-2 is an open program. No MWS prerequisite. HD That used to be the case. I think it has changed, from what I hear. *DISCLAIMER* I have absolutely no reference or reg to back it up, and I don't even remember who told me, but I recall someone telling me exactly what C-21 driver said. I think one main reason that was the T-38 qual itself cost even more money on top of B-2 training.
July 31, 200619 yr The B-2 program is no longer available to guys who didnt track 38s. When this changed General Handy, AMC/CC at the time, informed AETC and ACC that AMC units would no longer be taking guys who washed out of IFF or RTU... so goes the story I heard. Both are relatively new policy changes (within the last 2 years). Chuck
July 31, 200619 yr Originally posted by Scooter14: That used to be the case. I think it has changed, from what I hear. I should have disclaimed it. I'm sure it has changed. HD
July 31, 200619 yr Originally posted by Chuck17: When this changed General Handy, AMC/CC at the time, informed AETC and ACC that AMC units would no longer be taking guys who washed out of IFF or RTU... so goes the story I heard. If that's true, then well played, General.
July 31, 200619 yr The B-2 program is no longer available to guys who didnt track 38s.Same for b-1s & 52s? [ 31. July 2006, 12:42: Message edited by: ErikG ]
July 31, 200619 yr If you dont track 38s you will not drop bombs. Thats the way it is now, who knows if it will change again. Chuck
July 31, 200619 yr Originally posted by Chuck17: If you dont track 38s you will not drop bombs. Thats the way it is now, who knows if it will change again. Chuck I guess you never heard about the MOAB. [ 31. July 2006, 13:02: Message edited by: ClearedHot ]
July 31, 200619 yr I have a friend who's brother was a AC-130 driver, then got picked up for U-2s so got his T-38 qual, and now has been told he is eligible for pretty much anything. Though this may have happened before the new rules.
July 31, 200619 yr There is guy at Randolph who started in tankers, crossed over to U-2's and then Stink Bugs. Currently flying T-6's. Not sure if those changes mentioned above would cut that out...it happens.
July 31, 200619 yr intersting checking the whiteman site for pre-reqs about 2 months ago it still shows that all candidates need to have been T-38 experience. is this change real recent?
July 31, 200619 yr Again, shouldnt have used ABSOLUTE terms on this board of all places... BUT, unless you are a T-38 type in UPT, dont expect to have the opportunity to drop bombs... unless you do some crazy crossflow or are a secret squirrel. Chuck
August 1, 200619 yr I was hearing noise from a friend at T-1 PIT that there was a movement afoot to start dropping bombers to T-1 studs again. Again it was just noise and the person that was generating the noise was an O-5 new Sq/CC.
August 1, 200619 yr Anyone other than scoobs have an answer (no offense there scoobs but I'd like to hear from someone who has actually been to SUPT). If B-52 guys do track to T-38s, does anyone know why? I thought they had T-1s so you could get used to flying a big airplane that didn't respond right away to control inputs. What am I missing?
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