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^nomination for post of the year.

If that’s the kind of advice they’re giving you I’d seek better folks to get advice from. That’s nonsense.

If you’re passed over again next year you’ll have the option to decline continuation. I’m not saying...just saying! Gotta pay back any “unearned” portion of your bonus of course. Options are nice to have

True. Continuation only comes into play once passed over a second time. First time passed over you won’t see that paperwork. It happens a second time....you’ve got some decisions to make.

Today is official release

Breitling. Get the best. Forget the rest

To my knowledge that’s correct. They owe you one last move at the end when you separate/retire. And no, that doesn’t incur any duty.

If you take a move then absolutely that can/will extend your ADSC. If you choose to do that then it’s on you. However, they can’t force you to move and incur duty past your existing ADSC. It may force you to show your hand earlier than you want but if you don’t want the extra ADSC then don’t take the move.

If you have your PPL then you are a pilot as far civilians are concerned, AF wings or not It gets weird with civilian time vs how we log. Throw in little differences between individual airlines and it gets confusing fast. Just be able to justify how you calculated yours come interview time.

UPT would be SIC (except the couple solo flights would be PIC). Simulator time doesn’t get included in your civilian totals, regardless of the type of sim used. For those purposes it’s no different than “other” time. Doesn’t count for anything.

I’ll echo what others have said. Don’t lie or hide anything. Or at a minimum don’t be stupid and try to claim something with the VA and then turn around and fail to let your AME know about the same condition/ailment. I personally know a bud who got in deep legal sh*t with the FAA and wound up indicted. That stuff is no joke. If you aren’t willing to talk about it with your AME, don’t take it to the VA either. On the other hand, it’s pretty surprising how much stuff is acceptable to have and still hold a civilian medical certificate. Tons of info out there so do some research if you have specific concerns.

^ this Civilian aviation does not recognize other time.

I’ve had a chronic back injury for several years now and still flying. But like many things I’m sure it depends on the specifics of your injury. Regardless, my 2 cents would be to get it checked out asap.

Slife the Knife! Get some

"Acute Intoxication” .....better than chronic I suppose

Perfect. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the help!

^so true. There is so much about the the AF that is so out of date it’s just sad. The way we promote, pay, incentivize, move, etc. Like several of us told a two star traveling around a year or so ago trying to find a way to solve pilots jumping ship - it just comes down to the way you treat people. Admittedly that’s a broad statement and encompasses many things. But when people are made to feel like simple undervalued cogs in the machine...well that just isn’t how you should handle some of the most highly trained and educated folks out there. I’m afraid there’s a great many things the entire military does that have fallen behind society and the way talented people expect to be treated and valued. Saying “people are our most valuable assets” in one moment and then treating them like cogs the next, all in the name of “needs of the AF”, well it simply doesn’t justify that kind of treatment to many people and I believe that pool of folks is only going to grow as time goes on with younger generations. People (especially talented) simply don’t want to be treated that way, in addition to having so little control of their lives in the mil, as Genghis John points out.

^this A patch in and of itself doesn’t mean much. I’ve seen idiots get sent to WIC along with incredible folks. It still comes down to the person.

To follow on to my previous post, I’m moving to Vance this summer and looking for info on base housing. I’ve read this entire thread but looking for any current info. I’m an 0-4 with a wife and two kiddos. I’ve looked at housing’s website but it doesn’t offer a lot of data. Looking for general info: housing age/condition, size, management, general experience, etc. Thanks in adavance for any help.

General caveat - I’m not an expert on every question you have but I’ll try and throw some bones your way. 1) Regardless of when your spouse moves, yes you should be able to move directly into base housing and not be subject to dorm life. That’s exactly how it played out for me when I moved and my wife later joined me due to her work. If your records show you being married that’s what they look for (regardless if she moves at that time or not). As far as you moving and then going to SERE, it just depends on what your orders say. If it has you PCSing to Vance with a date prior to SERE then yes it sounds like the plan is for you to move and then go TDY from Vance. You should not have to ever live in the dorms though given you’re married. You said something about a waiver? Not sure what you’re referring to but once you PCS any housing allowance you’re receiving will then change to the rates at your new (Vance) location....assuming this is what you’re getting at. 2) I would ask this directly to your TMO office to make sure. I believe you could do it that way but you’re going to have to investigate. 3) RNLTDs are NOT set in stone. If adjusting your date is advantageous to your family then explain the situation you your commander. If it makes sense, and won’t screw up follow on training, then your CC can certainly make changes to those dates through AFPC. Again, just go ask the question. 4) I would not wait till I got there. Call the housing office and start getting a feel for how close to capacity they typically run. Especially going into that time of year, they should be able to give you an idea of what to expect. You won’t know the final answer till it’s closer to move time. If they are full at that time then you’ll be able to go offbase to find housing. Have a plan for either case. Hope this helps a bit. Best of luck!

Agreed. I wonder if there’s stats for late-raters who take the bonus. I’d like to see what percentage of total takers fall into that camp. That’s a completely different equation when it comes to folks staying/taking the bonus.

Had a sqd cc say something similar to me once. I looked at him like he had a dick growing from his forehead. And they wonder why pilots go find other work.