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Ah yes, entirely logical conclusion. Is the Air Force also "forcing" you to pay for their travel to Maxwell? Are they "forcing" you to pay for your family's meals while they're there? For fucks sake, you're bringing your family on a TDY. Stop being a whiney little bitch and just get a place off base.

The show 'Dogfights' has an episode on this operation. Very entertaining...

Necessary because of sweat or required by some local reg? Just curious. How does the roll out of a program like this affect guys flying AMC aircraft in an FTU? Will I have to wait until I get back to AMC to get issued whatever product wins the bid?

Well made it 9/10's through my deployment while sporting the OLD pt sweatshirt (the one that says "Air Force" on it) before I got Chiefed today. DARN! And it was a double whammy since I had my sleeves pushed 1/3 up on my arm too. I still refuse to buy the new PT sweatshirt out of principle that I already paid for this one and I only need to dig it out of the closet when I deploy. So I will continue trying to be as loud as humanly possibly in my PT's swishing down the hallways and through base.

I'm in the middle of packing up my stuff for the long haul from McChord to Dover. I have done several full DITY's in the past. This time I am doing half and half (estimated 5000 lbs each for me and them to move). In regards to trailers, the new rules went into effect sometime around 2007 or 2008, I can't remember exactly. I just remember that my last PCS was in the summer of '08 and I bought a 7x16 tandem axle enclosed trailer and the rules were fairly new then. I still did alright, but I lost the 2200 lbs of trailer weight. I do use it to move my motorcycle. I have a motorcycle wheel chock and tie downs permanently installed. But at what point does that constitute a "motorcycle trailer" considering the vast majority of my weight is other house hold goods (tool boxes, gun safe/guns, etc...)? Who makes that determination? BIGFREDDIE: I'm estimating 5000 lbs from McChord to Dover (2793 miles) and it came in at $5400, so barely over a dollar per pound. You have about half the distance, so the 55 cents per pound is probably right.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/18532986@N07/sets/72157626140462192/with/5475227251/ Pretty sweet gallery of painted A-2 jackets.

I'm going and bringing the family. Anyone else notice that they don't have rooms in lodging for families with children due to renovations? I guess I'm forced to stay off base and pay out of pocket

This is a video the pilots in the scout platoon of the company I was in made in 1988 (B Co. 4-229th AAHR) at Ft. Hood, TX during our unit's start-up and reciept of the AH-64 Apache. It's a parody of the "Apache on the Move" video made by MD to tell the world how awesome the Apache was back then (and it really is, but after a while it got tiring to always hear about the Apache -- I mean the OH-5.8 had been around since the late 60's)! To really understand the parody, you should watch the actual "Apache on the Move" video, if you have time (about 10 mins). Here's the link: As far as the OH-58 Parody (called "Kiowa on the Move"), it's here, and is also about 10 minutes long: Enjoy. PS: for anyone who was at Ft Rucker in the mid-to late 80's, the helicopter we had at Ft. Hood and that was used in the video was tail #353 -- the same one that was on the postcards sold in the PX at Ft. Rucker (the OH-58 with the orange paint and white letters).