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My position is that you need to STFU and listen to the advice folks on here are giving you. One position of mine is that I am a Baseops Moderator and have noticed that you are very lippy and seem to have a comment on just about everything. Over 100 posts in a month.

STFU everyone...you arguing about landing for F-cks sake. JTFC, you aren't doing combat night traps on a carrier in bad wx. If you find landing your aircraft tough, the rest of the flying must be pretty damn lame. Nobody cares. Back to ACP discussions please.

I'm a fighter guy, and I love giving tanker guys a hard time, but expressing a belief that the 135 is easy to fly sounds like something an ignorant finance officer might say if he wandered into the wrong corner of the internet. Did someone let scoobs change his username again?

Guardian, say quals.

KIO. Get back to the topic at hand and take your playground argument somewhere else.

Guardian. Glad it takes so much skill to fly whatever it is you don't want to tell us you fly. Unless it is the U-2, it isn't harder to land than the 135. The KC-135 mission is by far one of the, if not the easiest flying missions in the Air Force. I can say that as a prior KC-135 guy. I spent 3 years flying as an associate with a KC-135 ANG unit which had airline guys who came to us from the Viper, Eagle, Hawg, Harrier and Hornet. Their previous missions were undoubtedly more complex than anything we did, however every single one of them took a considerable amount of time to figure out how to land the bitch. It takes new co-pilots on average a year to land consistently. Believe it or not, your Evaluator experience and hard fought CFI doesn't directly translate to every plane in the Air Force inventory. Unless you have flown the tanker you have no credibility to talk bro. Just like I have no credibility to tell you how easy it is to airdrop or do a 2v2 or fly the president or whatever you claim to do.

UAVs. Those are easier to fly, are often even lower in the UPT class distribution than AWACS and KC-135s to McConnell, and fit the rest of your criteria. As for qualifying my position, I've been a T-6 FAIP, MC-12 MC, Tanker pilot, flown a couple civilian puddle jumper planes, and some seat time in the C-17, A-10, and KC-10 simulators flying patterns. I've also had my three carnival rides in the U-2, which would have gone much better had I done the interview after 500 hours in the -135. So far you've been wrong about Shell 77, obnoxious in your fervor and posting rate, and unwilling to clearly state your flying history, so until those conditions change, I'll go back to lurking. BREAK BREAK I posted in the promotions thread, but it's relevant here. Allegedly, all six school selects at Lakenheath had declined school. Since school is a similar commitment as taking the bonus, this is another bad sign for retention, with the notable difference that these six are ostensibly the top six dudes according to the AF. If the promise of an easier path to O-6 isn't enough to keep them, I doubt an extra 10K will change the tide.

A1 also never seems to realize that there is a very real difference between occupied ejection seats (or containers) and actual combat capability. I have a sinking suspicion that we have assumed the assurance of air superiority for a bit too long. If you look at American military history, we have a pattern of behavior: 1. Overestimating ourselves while we underestimate the enemy, and 2. Being forced to bounce back and learn quickly after getting caught with our pants down. The repetition of those 2 mistakes is continuously demoralizing. Sometimes it seems like our leadership is more concerned with maintaining the political status quo than it is with winning. That fact can't be fixed by throwing money at it.

He reminds me of this guy... On topic- I didn't take the bonus.

Yes let's talk dollar bills, and how there should be more Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

Tanker tinder!

Thanks duck. I appreciate your points and think they have been the best stated so far. You're right. I have never been a tanker pilot. And I don't disagree that it is probably one of the hardest planes to land. It sounds terrible. And I'm not trying to belittle landing her or flying her at all. Just repeating what I have been told about the tanker being easier overall and I didn't see the need for anyone to have a problem with and FTU instructor showing up with 0 IP time. Thanks again for your comments and I aspire to be able to present facts in a succinct matter of fact way without hitting other people's emotional response buttons. I hope this is dead unless you guys want to beat up on me some more.

Are you ashamed of your airframe? Is that why you won't post it?

There's always been an accordion effect in promotion board timing. In the early 90s, folks met their O-4 boards really late--I want to say at the 10.5 or 11 year point. The AF was in the early stages of the post-Cold War drawdown, so there were more than enough FGOs in the shrinking AF. Boards went ever-later, and promotion rates plummeted. Fast forward a few years--large Cold War-era cohorts retire, airline hiring picks up, fewer get commissioned per year, etc., and magically, folks start meeting boards earlier and promotion rates at those boards increase. When the Air Force shrunk again, in order to pay for recapitalization, promotions slowed down. The Air Force is set to expand again, albeit not hugely so, and the civilian economy (particularly the airline industry) is enticing folks to separate/retire. Seems like a pretty good formula for meeting boards earlier and/or higher promo rates. Where we stand right now, folks meet their O-6 board at 20 yrs, which means some--those who get selected 2 below for O-5 and O-6--can get selected at 16 yrs and be pinned on at 17 yrs. I can only begin to imagine how young our "bright and shiny" types will be, particularly in the manned flying community, as airline hiring takes its toll. TT

If the flight doc isn't qualified to, or no other docs in your clinic or flight medicine aren't qualified to give FAA medicals, it has been my experience that they know nothing or next to nothing about the topic. Why spend the money with them when if you are a DSG flying for the airlines you need a class 1 anyways or you get an equivalent class 3 by just having your medical? Class 2 does almost nothing for people doing what we are doing. You don't even need a class 2 to civilian flight instruct so why bother with spending extra money for it?

PM me your .mil address, our wing has some pretty good PowerPoints/info on it

seeing real action...

ABQ's quality and quantity of food and bars is superior to Clovis as well

1. Food 2. Bars 3. Proximity to outdoor funtivities

Until McD changes it back Because Air Force

The Dew will not turn out well. This is my only warning. Out

But if I can't expect you to follow the pointless inane BS that doesn't actually have a written reg or policy letter to reference, how can I expect you to read my mind on all the actual mission decisions and do things that aren't written as a requirement... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Give it 5 years and RPAs will be in vogue. Eventually the problem will resolve itself. It's not a bad gig, especially once the ops tempo issues get resolved. People are just trapped in their egos right now. The reality is computers can fly better. We are dinosaurs... it's just a matter of time. Don't worry, you can still wear your flight jacket and expensive watch. Flame suit on! Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

I don't get it? Why does an IP who has never taught before showing up at tanker FTU concern you? Is flying a tanker hard?

My friends, extreme problems demand extreme solutions. We must throw every new officer into the rpa field and double pay for all rated positions if we are going to solve this HUGE problem. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk

Dude. That's low. I wasn't implying emotionally either. I happen to have been really good friends with one of the crew members and I know he would if he could say that flying a tanker isn't hard. Massive structural failure happens to any airframe. Azimuth I think that was a stupid dick move. I realize you had no idea that I was friends with one of them but pulling on emotional strings just to make someone else look bad is what happens in politics and it makes them look stupid also. I forgive you for being an ignorant person. You should retract what you said. Seriously low dude.

Things that don't require bottom of pilot training class to graduate. And yes I knew Trey for 6+ years.