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Looking for some good info from some knowledgeable individuals.

My backstory is I am guard guy with prior enlisted time as a crewchief on Vipers, was lucky enough to get selected by my unit for a UPT slot. Attended Wright-Pat a year ago and passed all test with flying colors to receive my FC1 with one waiver for a minor eye condition. I went to OTS shortly after, but while at OTS all rated officers were given hearing exams to which I failed with H-3 results for my left ear at high frequency (4000 & 6000Hz). I was then sent to Doctor's office for an evaluation to which they found I had a severe sinus cold and an ear block (left ear) that the test proctor had failed to visually notice. The Dr told me not to worry, he put me on cold meds and told me we would retest later when I was healthy (which never happened at OTS). After graduation, I arrived at ENJJPT for an August 2017 start. Upon starting pilot training, the Flight Doc reviewed each students medical docs and conducted some brief tests before signing off on our FC1's. One of those tests happened to be a hearing exam to which I tested at H-3 once again. The Flight Doc proceeded to follow the waiver guide by having me retest twice on base, seek a civilian specialist (local ENT), and even got authorized a backseat ride in the T-6 with an IP to conduct an In-flight hearing exam, all of which I passed with no difficulty. The waiver was written for asymmetric H-2 hearing (left ear) because specialists test showed me at 50-55dB @4000Hz and 45dB @6000Hz. AETC/SG rejected the waiver surprising my Flight Doc and IP's. I got my guard unit and OG/CC involved to no immediate avail. I was terminated from training in November (start of phase 2) and have been fighting my case ever since. Every rated pilot and Flight Doc I have talked to has supported my case saying the ruling is obsurd and to fight it. They concur I am 1-click away from passing the hearing exam (being waiverable) for onbase testing (60dB to 55dB @4000Hz) and that I should be a no-brainer for an ETP. I have been building my ETP and testing on base at Sheppard regularly. I passed the onbase test once but was told I had to retest immediately that day per the AFI, to which I could not duplicate my results (btw 2 hearing exams in a row is torture).

I apologize for being long winded and understand this is more of a hearing standards question, but I would appreciate any feedback on both hearing standards and ETP info. I have been doing my research but want to make sure I am not missing something.

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Anybody know what the approval chain for the Medical ETP is for Guard/Reserve side?  Still Wing-NAF-MAJCOM-AF/CV?

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On 4/23/2017 at 8:10 AM, 08Dawg said:

Anybody know what the approval chain for the Medical ETP is for Guard/Reserve side?  Still Wing-NAF-MAJCOM-AF/CV?

According to the guidance I have found, the Guard Medical ETP chain is OG/CC-WG/CC-TAG-NGB/A1-NGB/CF. Correct me if I am wrong, but I found a publication for how to submit Age Waivers and Medical ETPs.

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So currently have an ETP in the works, but the waiver-able limits for my condition have changed since my ETP started its routing (still out of limits but only a small amount now). Is there a specific protocol for a rebuttal? My current Flight Surgeon wrote a memo supporting my rebuttal and as of now the plan is to submit it to AFMSA. Or should we go thru AETC again first? And will any of that interfere with the ETP?

From what I know, my ETP case gets reviewed medically (to provide solid medical info to the decision makers) and don't want to step on any toes since the ETP is supposed to be a last resort and now I'm trying medically again.

 

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On 3/14/2019 at 4:51 PM, jonlbs said:

So currently have an ETP in the works, but the waiver-able limits for my condition have changed since my ETP started its routing (still out of limits but only a small amount now). Is there a specific protocol for a rebuttal? My current Flight Surgeon wrote a memo supporting my rebuttal and as of now the plan is to submit it to AFMSA. Or should we go thru AETC again first? And will any of that interfere with the ETP?

From what I know, my ETP case gets reviewed medically (to provide solid medical info to the decision makers) and don't want to step on any toes since the ETP is supposed to be a last resort and now I'm trying medically again.

 

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