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  1. Sorry to hear this. PFT I presume?? To answer your question, going AD won't trigger a retest. However, if you feel you have a good argument on your behalf, you can always appeal. Your ANG unit can always ask for reconsideration, file a complaint with your congressman/congresswoman, etc. Not saying that you will have success, but one can try. Post in the "Aviation Medicine" thread and see if others have thoughts. Good luck.
  2. The test is based around the idea of five stimuli at five contrast levels, but it doesn't always present every stimulus at every level. It uses a staircase algorithm. If you get two stimuli correct at the first (highest) contrast level, it drops down to the third level. If you get two right on that level, it drops down to the fifth (lowest) contrast level. If you get all five right at that level you get a score of 100. If, at any point, you miss a stimulus, it moves back up one contrast level higher (e.g. if you miss one on the third level it bounces back to the second level) and then if you get two more right it bounces back to one level lower in contrast. So although the test is based on a five by five grid, you rarely see all 25 stimuli. Most people see between 9 (the number of stimuli if you never miss anything) and maybe 15 stimuli if you have a mild color deficiency. Of course, this is just for one color for one eye, so multiply that by six (three cones and two eyes) for the complete test. And as I said previously, if your score is near the pass/fail line the entire test repeats for that color to confirm the result. Wright-Patt will almost never repeat the test because: 1) It's already been repeated as part of the computer logic and 2) What score do you take it you fail once and pass once? Like anything in the standards world, it can be very tough to draw the line when someone is on the fence, but it has to be done. I know it sounds a bit like the WP folks might not care (which is absolutely not the case), but they have to process upwards of 50 folks a week and they have limited resources to do so. Difficult decisions have to be made and they are sometimes not what applicants what to hear. But, they will give you every chance to pass that they can. Steve
  3. Nate, I believe Wright Patt is still using the Landolt (directional) "C" CCT. There may be a few other clinics out there using the "C", it just depends on who has updated their equipment in the last couple of years. More than likely, your local flight med will have the letter version. In theory, the two should be equivalent. The "C" was introduced to make the stimulus more consistent in difficulty, whereas the letters vary (Z, V are easier, E, F, R, P are harder). However, your score on each test should be similar (within the test-retest variability for each type of device). The version at Wright-Patt (unless they've changed it since I left) will retest you if you score a 50. You effectively have to score below 55 twice to get that as your official result. Once the machine spits out the final result, it's pretty much final. I wouldn't expect them to retest you again at that point. Hope that help. Best of luck, Steve
  4. ClearedHot, I'm not a flight doc, but I haven't seen one post on here for a long time so you may not get any other responses. Here's the info you're looking for (From the waiver guide dated 16 Feb 22. Waiver for IFC I is possible. Must demonstrate stability after being off meds for one year prior to FC I exam.
  5. Helo, Most of the specifics related to medical have been removed from the AFI and moved to the Medical Standards Directory (attached). The Air Force Waiver Guide (easily Googled) has more information on how medical conditions are dispositioned. Sorry, I don't know have any personal knowledge on the subject. Not my area of expertise. Best of luck. Medical_Standards_Directory.pdf
  6. I'm not that kind of doc, but since you didn't get any other replies I'll give you my thoughts. They will certainly review the history and waiver, but I don't think they'll do any more inspection than what everyone else gets. In all my years working at WP I don't recall anyone being sent over to the medical center for a colon scope. Each department is a little different, but for eye folks, our attitude was that if the AF already waived a condition then we were wasting their time giving them our opinion. The only exception was if the waiver was based on incorrect information. Then we would point that out and let them decide how to proceed. Bottom line is that I wouldn't sweat it.
  7. Agree with both of his statements. Until you are winged, you are untrained. However, I've seen cases where people who had hours in UPT were treated like trained aircrew simple because money had already been invested in them. It's certainly a gray area. You won't get corneal pachymetry annually as the good Capt pointed out, but you will get the air puff. If that reads 22 or above, it will be back to optometry more than likely. But again, if it's been decided your eye pressure is normal for your eye (i.e. given your corneal thickness and lack of evidence of glaucoma) I wouldn't envision it being any issue.
  8. 10 exophoria is the standard, but there are some waivers available for people who exceed this. There is not a set limit for what is waiverable. It depends on a number of factors that are determined when the exam is done.
  9. Yes, but it's not real common. Having an exophoria is normal, having an extremely large exophoria is a problem.
  10. Sorry to potentially state the obvious, but. amblyopia means you have a "lazy" eye. It can mean an eye turn (which would also be labeled as an exotropia), but more correctly it means an eye that can't correct to 20/20. Either an eye turn or not correctable are show stoppers for a pilot slot.
  11. Based strictly on the 3.75 value, it is potentially waiverable (and it wouldn't be waiverable for FC I if you weren't to get refractive surgery so in this case if you want a shot, get surgery). Looking at the most recent waiver guide that Google provided me, Table 4 of the "Refractive Surgery" chapter says you can have up to 6.00 D of astigmatism treated with refractive surgery and be POTENTIALLLY eligible for waiver for FC I. There are lots of other factors (is your myopia/hyperopia within limits, is there any ocular pathology that may be causing 3.75 D of astigmatism, is the outcome optimal, etc), but it is POTENTIALLY waiverable. I stress the "potentially" because this was a monumental increase from the previous limit of 3.00 D and when the change was made the understanding among the policy makers was that your post-surgery vision and refractive error would have to be stone cold normal. The waiver guide I'm referencing is a year old so it's not most current guidance, but unless there has been a titanic change in direction, standards aren't getting more strict over time.
  12. Although astigmatism is written with a sign, in reality it is a difference of two powers and thus the magnitude is important, not the sign. It's not really a hard concept, but it's hard to explain without pictures. Take an example where an eye needs a power of -3.00 Diopters in the vertical meridian and -1.00 Diopters in the horizontal meridian for optimal correction. The astigmatism would be 2.00 Diopters. There are two forms of writing this physical lens, and thus astigmatism can be written as either a positive or negative number, but it's the absolute value that is meaningful.
  13. Not even close. It's extremely rare when a flight doc is turned down for medical reasons.
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