PlanePhlyer Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Nothing at all heard at Laughlin yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Word is 3 of the 4 are T-6 FAIPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 The T-38 FAIP from SPS has been a FAIP for a little under 2 years. That's gotta be one of the shorter FAIP assignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlanePhlyer Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Laughlin was a T-6 FAIP. I just heard today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Laughlin was a T-6 FAIP. I just heard today. And an incredible individual as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 9 hours ago, cloud said: The T-38 FAIP from SPS has been a FAIP for a little under 2 years. That's gotta be one of the shorter FAIP assignments. END FAIP was similar, 2 years and 2 months I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2016 Share Posted July 14, 2016 Laughlin was a T-6 FAIP. I just heard today. IP7? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx_flyer Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Nine -38s in END track select today, 3 of which will PCS to Sheppard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innovator Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, tx_flyer said: Nine -38s in END track select today, 3 of which will PCS to Sheppard. Holy cow...is that a new trend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.L Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Nine -38s in END track select today, 3 of which will PCS to Sheppard. What's the reasoning behind the move for these dudes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faipmafiaofficial Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Laughlin, Columbus, and Vance can't handle that many 38 people in a single class. Yes that will be happening for the foreseeable future every class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faipmafiaofficial Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 On July 13, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Lstcause257 said: And an incredible individual as well. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk What has he done that is so incredible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 What has he done that is so incredible? Just an overall great individual. The exact opposite on a volunteer King. He would do anything in his realm of influence to help you. Personal, professional it wouldn't matter. He cares. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 5 hours ago, tx_flyer said: Nine -38s in END track select today, 3 of which will PCS to Sheppard. 9 to END and an additional 3 to SPS 2 hours ago, faipmafiaofficial said: Laughlin, Columbus, and Vance can't handle that many 38 people in a single class. Yes that will be happening for the foreseeable future every class... Not true. One flight in particular has had that particular student load (sts) or very close to it 4 classes in a row now. Sending 9 guys to a class or two is doable, but when all the other class sizes have been increased to 6-7 studs then it becomes mathematically impossible to keep them on timeline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tx_flyer Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) We've also been told that though some of the -38 guys will still get heavies (obviously all won't go fighter), but they're giving more out so that they can come back as IPs to support the long term replenishing of the fighter pilot deficit. @Boomer6 Even better, thx for the correction Edited July 22, 2016 by tx_flyer misinfo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 Some of the worst T-38 IPs I saw were 38 grads to heavies back to 38 instructor, that would be unfortunate. They have no pointy nose tactical credibility. And as I write this, I realize they may not have to, if 38 grads are still going heavies. I just know how I looked at them as a student, fair or not, I gravitated to the IPs that did what I wanted to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 2 hours ago, matmacwc said: Some of the worst T-38 IPs I saw were 38 grads to heavies back to 38 instructor, that would be unfortunate. They have no pointy nose tactical credibility. And as I write this, I realize they may not have to, if 38 grads are still going heavies. I just know how I looked at them as a student, fair or not, I gravitated to the IPs that did what I wanted to do. All the MC-12 guys from 38s had to go somewhere. Lots of MC-12/heavy guys teaching -38 studs these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungnDumb Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Boomer6 said: Sending 9 guys to a class or two is doable, but when all the other class sizes have been increased to 6-7 studs then it becomes mathematically impossible to keep them on timeline. We're running into this on the T-6 side as well. Just for everyone to stay on timeline we must average about 100 effective sorties a day out of about 130 ish flown. So once you start taking into account CT, MX, and students hooking/ineffective rides it gets tough pretty fast. Another big issue are the sims. We get on average about 60-64 sims each day for all the T-6's. When you have each flight needing to average 5 per day just to graduate on time it's tough to get ahead for things like XC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 3 hours ago, YoungnDumb said: We're running into this on the T-6 side as well. Just for everyone to stay on timeline we must average about 100 effective sorties a day out of about 130 ish flown. So once you start taking into account CT, MX, and students hooking/ineffective rides it gets tough pretty fast. Another big issue are the sims. We get on average about 60-64 sims each day for all the T-6's. When you have each flight needing to average 5 per day just to graduate on time it's tough to get ahead for things like XC. Same thing in 38s, SIMs are keeping studs behind as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 8 hours ago, Boomer6 said: All the MC-12 guys from 38s had to go somewhere. Lots of MC-12/heavy guys teaching -38 studs these days. A real MWS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFM this Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 A real MWS? Actually capitalizing on a stable of T-38 trained bodies by allowing them IFF slots would open up all manner of worm cans, not the least of which would lead to minor slowing of the 11F tsunami. Take your common sense elsewhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Or we could have not just essentially shut the whole 11F pipeline down for 3+ years in the first place. This is now just fvcking hilarious now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6 Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 Ya, and what are they going to do with late Captains that only have MC-12 and T-38 IP time when they get done with the UPT gig? Not a rhetorical question. Can they (if they even want to by then) go to IFF or should they expect ISR/Heavy/RPAs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guineapigfury Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magellan Posted July 23, 2016 Share Posted July 23, 2016 1 hour ago, guineapigfury said: You implying he could go there to fly the 586ths C-12 and T-38s (perhaps both) on test missions? Or he could be there for the F-16 FTU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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