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Does anyone have any updated info on this? About a year ago I started hearing about a plan to introduce more AGR positions in Reserve squadrons. From what I heard the majority of full timers would still be ARTs but there would be a few AGRs sprinkled in. 

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All ARTs in my squadron have transitioned to AGR and we have more AGR positions for the TRs opening every month.  

I think the overall plan is for 13 officer and 17 enlisted AGRs total in my squadron alone.  

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The NDAA authorized 3000 conversions for the ANG, not sure about the AFRES, but I imagine it's similar.  Who knows how those will be dolled out across the country, but rumor here is we'll get ~4 pilots converted in FY20.  However I've been in long enough to trust the AF very little, so I'll believe it when I see it.

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We’ve been hearing that for the last 1.5 years. Every time the deadline hits where the transition is supposed to happen, we get the “oh it’s comng (sts) but it’ll be here in another 6 months.” I’ve ceased to believe or care about it anymore. 

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I know Barksdale has been getting a bunch, and it was much appreciated.  They couldn't get any 12Bs to take the ART jobs because long ago, some genius decided to make all 11B slots GS-13s and 12Bs GS-12s, which was widely considered a slap in the face.  Now that there are AGR slots aplenty, many more navs/EWs are taking the full time slots and fixing the manning shortfalls. 

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I've heard that it is coming to the ANG "soon", but aside from the younger dudes that don't have enough flight time to get to a major airline, most people aren't interested in the idea. We do, however, have a few DSG's that would be willing to go on mil leave from their company to come back for more AD points with short AGR tours.

 

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3 hours ago, Gazmo said:

I've heard that it is coming to the ANG "soon", but aside from the younger dudes that don't have enough flight time to get to a major airline, most people aren't interested in the idea. We do, however, have a few DSG's that would be willing to go on mil leave from their company to come back for more AD points with short AGR tours.

 

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I guess this all depends on the squadron, and it is coming soon. 

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Heard we are only getting 2 transitions for FY19...4 of us currently who would take one. Instead of giving us 4 and getting 100% take rate, 1-2 dudes will be quitting shortly...good work NGB. 

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Remember this is just the first round. I also understand that some aren’t going to hang around for additional rounds. Some will prosper in this round, others will not. 

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Valid, and I believe there will be a total transition (other than those close enough to tech retirement it doesn't make sense). But NGB and HRO are crazy if they think many dudes won't just say fuck it and go airlines vs. working another year for a 30% pay cut under a terrible system. They could retain more full time dudes, but they're dragging it out and losing a lot of experience in the process.

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This process would be easier if NGB would send out some business rules or some guidance. At least with the T5 push, they put out business rules to help with the process. Maybe we’ll get something in “2 weeks”. Until then, commanders are trying to get the resources to the best positions as they see fit. 

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In my unit, this won't happen in time. This should have happened 5 or 6 years ago to keep full-timers from leaving for the airlines, but that's par for the course for the way the government operates in general. Totally reactionary and never proactive.

What they really should have gotten authorized was a way to mobilize traditionals to come in and keep the lights on for when there's noone left willing to stay in full-time positions.

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