Guest jmmp97 Posted August 8, 2003 Share Posted August 8, 2003 FYI - I don't think I'm releasing any private info here, but my recruiter told me that one of the guys he's trying to put in for this board has a decent AFOQT score, over 700 hrs of flight time, and got an 8 PCSM after the BAT - can that really happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JDog83 Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I will be taking the BAT test on wednesday and am wondering a few things - Anyone got any pointers - Will i need my soc security card? (eventhough i have a military id) -What is the website where you check your pcsm score - how do you update flight hours afterwards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasySideUp Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Play a bunch of X-box this week, games like HALO where you use both sticks to do different things. If you don't own HALO you will fail the test miserably. There is still time though to go buy an xbox so all is not lost. Wal-Mart is now 24-7 so there is no excuse. -j Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest germb777 Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 The website for your PCSM/BAT score: http://www.aetc.randolph.af.mil/sas/pcsm/ I didn't have my social security card, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have one. Your military ID probably has your SSAN; I'm pretty sure all they need is something with your SSAN on it. Visit http://www.baseops.net/bat/ for more information on the test. Nobody who has taken it can really tell you any details without risking their slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I actually talked to a guy that got turned away because he didn't have a copy of his last page of his logbook to prove his hours. I didn't even bring my logbook however, I just put down my hours and that was that. I guess it depends on where you take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C5Heavy Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I was wondering what game would really help. TO my knowledge, I thought MS Flight Sim and Combat Sim would be helpful. Left hand Throttle control, right hand turn control. Any hint from any BAT veterans? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guppyguy Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 IMHO, believe it or not, I'm not sure any flight sim games would help. Maybe an old Atari game like asteriods or try juggling??? It's kinda hard to prepare for. Just don't show up tired. Let us know how you did- email me if you have any other questions. Guppyguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C5Heavy Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Any arcade shoot em up type game which require use of keyboard and mouse should be helpful I'm guessing. One hand on the keyboard for direction, the other on the mouse for aiming and shooting. Just my point of view. ============== Ghost Recon Gold rocks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobby Hill Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Honestly guys.. for you up and comers fixing to take the BAT test.. that test is older than petrified dog $HIT.. Were talking graphics like that game pong or astroids (if any of you are young enough to remember).. and as long and you can constantly rub your stomach in circles and pat your head at the same time for an extended period of time.. you should be able to do fine.. There are only a few 5 min. long sections where you are continuously doing the same thing for a period of time.. if your good at picking up or catching onto something you have never done before like a simple video game.. you will have no problem with the BAT.. its just an old video game... most of it is pattern, and number sequience memorization.. and then a question bank of questions that basicly want to know if you are a thrill seeker.. trying to find out if you will do soemthing crazy weather or not you have or will ever do it.. ex: Have you ever been skydiving?... weather you have or not.. or will or will not do it.. always answer the question yes.. or yes you will do it.. or yes you will try it.. and or yes I have done it before.. Its there way of finding out who has balls.. Makes your PCSM go way up!! Ohh.. and no you dont have to play HALO or buy a d@mn X-BOX... I dont know what that game is.. but "keep it simple stupid" play something that has a wheel or control stick in your right hand.. and an up and down throttle type control in your left hand where the game controls will always be moving. And like always.. just relax.. and take all the $hit you asked if you should take with you.. better to be prepared than not have stuff you need.. Any more questions.. just ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Am I the only one who remembers signing a statement agreeing NOT to disclose the contents of the test or repeat anything that could give any unfair advantage to anyone who hasn't taken it yet? There is a reason you can only take it once, and that is because if you are prepared for it then it will no longer be an accurate guage of your potential to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 Originally posted by determined: Am I the only one who remembers signing a statement agreeing NOT to disclose the contents of the test or repeat anything that could give any unfair advantage to anyone who hasn't taken it yet? There is a reason you can only take it once, and that is because if you are prepared for it then it will no longer be an accurate guage of your potential to succeed.I was thinking the same thing. It's nice to help a fellow aviator (potential) out, but let's not give any unfair advantages here. [ 07 October 2003, 08:03: Message edited by: Sierra Hotel ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chaw Posted October 7, 2003 Share Posted October 7, 2003 I remember that statement. Even if I didn't sign the statement, I would be sure not to help anyone to prepare for the test. I went into it with minimal knowledge, so you will go into it with minimal knowledge. Why should it be easier for anyone who comes after me? To give clues and directions about preparation invalidates the testing measures and scoring. There is a reason that the Air Force makes you sign an agreement to not disclose information about the test. You degrade your own score, and everyone else's when you tell people what to answer and how to prepare. Can someone boot this thread?? Just my $0.02 [ 07 October 2003, 08:15: Message edited by: chaw ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JPritch Posted October 10, 2003 Share Posted October 10, 2003 I don't think anyone has posted info on the BAT that isn't already being publicly disclosed by the AF. Hell, take a look at the AF website that talks about the BAT. That is alot more revealing than anyone here even touched. Plus it has pictures. So no, I don't see the need to boot this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paulherron Posted March 6, 2004 Share Posted March 6, 2004 Its not hard at all, and there is no way to study for it. The examples on the internet are exactly like the real thing. Just another video game for me...and i love video games and if you do too you will have no problem. And I don't know why it is so secret, like I said the examples your recruiter will give and what you see on the internet is pretty much it. Just be rested. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raven3 Posted March 7, 2004 Share Posted March 7, 2004 I think the BAT is all gamesmanship. I took it three times, and the AFOQT twice, heres how it worked out: 1st BAT/1st AFOQT/17 FLT hrs AFOQT pilot 71/PCSM 12 ---got waiver for a retest of the BAT 2nd BAT/17 FLT hrs AFOQT pilot 71/PCSM 24 updated flt hrs PCSM 31 ---studied for AFOQT (pilot sections only), which I didnt do the first time AFOQT #2 pilot 96/20+ flt hrs PCSM 61 ---AFPC started allowing two BAT test ---recieve some "Advice" for the BAT BAT #3/40+ flt hrs/96 AFOQT pilot PCSM 99 And it wasnt because i actually had increased my ability to move a cursor in a circle (My 1st BAT was in 98 then 03, and now 04, I am a very lucky individual. .....and waiting the word from AD board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Spike Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 Originally posted by raven3: I think the BAT is all gamesmanship. I took it three times, and the AFOQT twice, heres how it worked out: 1st BAT/1st AFOQT/17 FLT hrs AFOQT pilot 71/PCSM 12 ---got waiver for a retest of the BAT 2nd BAT/17 FLT hrs AFOQT pilot 71/PCSM 24 updated flt hrs PCSM 31 ---studied for AFOQT (pilot sections only), which I didnt do the first time AFOQT #2 pilot 96/20+ flt hrs PCSM 61 ---AFPC started allowing two BAT test ---recieve some "Advice" for the BAT BAT #3/40+ flt hrs/96 AFOQT pilot PCSM 99 And it wasnt because i actually had increased my ability to move a cursor in a circle (My 1st BAT was in 98 then 03, and now 04, I am a very lucky individual. .....and waiting the word from AD boardThis is exactly why I think the validity of that test and PCSM scores in general should be called into question. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raven3 Posted March 8, 2004 Share Posted March 8, 2004 I agree, although it worked in my favor this time, it was all gamesmanship......not skill, or the inate ability to be a pilot, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Why do they make you bring your current college transcript when you take the BAT test? The reason I ask is, they use your military GPA (grades from classes taken at any college)for pilot selection. Whereas your college transcript will only show grades and GPA from your respective university not from all college classes taken if you have taken classes elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pcampbell Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 I didn't have to do that. Maybe because I was ROTC, and they had all my info. Maybe they meant for you to bring all applicable transcripts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TEXASPILOT Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 If you have already been selected for a guard unit, do you have to take the BAT test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitman Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I'm ROTC too so i don't know what that means but it's on the instructions on the PCSM website http://www.aetc.randolph.af.mil/sas/pcsm/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patriot 328 Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 Here goes another good motor sensory memory game to help brush up or work out for the BAT. http://file.sugarqube.com/Cards/jblo_TheWo...swf?PL=L400x300 : ) Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flight Posted March 31, 2004 Share Posted March 31, 2004 LOL....I think everyone taking the BAT test needs to use this game. It will help a butt load! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kpheinemann Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Quick question, I'm trying to get scheduled for the BAT. My wing doesn't require it, but I'm applying to several different wings. How can I do this without stepping on anyone's toes and ruining my chances. Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C5Heavy Posted May 13, 2004 Share Posted May 13, 2004 Could not access this game !! Broken link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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