Steve Davies Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 In keeping with the recent spate of threads about flight flight suit pockets and the like, I thought I'd take it to the next level and post this little gem from Flight International: Hawaii Air National Guard (HIANG) Boeing KC-135 tanker crews are removing everything from rubber mats to snow gear from their aircraft in a bid to reduce weight and save fuel. The hunt for excess equipment is part of the US Air Force Smart Operations for the 21st Century (AFSO21) initiative to save money. HIANG crews at Hickam AFB are identifying equipment that is only necessary on certain missions, such as winter gear that is not required in Hawaii, and removing excess equipment to save weight. The USAF estimates equipment that could be removed adds up to 2,270kg (5,000lb) or more of excess weigSo, spill the beans. What are you guys finding in your MWS that you're throwing out the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 "Hey-look-at-us-we're-AFSO21-compliant" Planes that have the ability to fly across the globe have no "standard mission" or "standard equipment" loadout. HD [ 02. February 2007, 05:56: Message edited by: HerkDerka ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-O-double-Z Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I've thrown out all additional crew members...no co-pilot, no navigator, no flight engineer. The weight I save allows me to carry a few extra rounds of 30MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eeyore Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 The trash!!! Taco Gilbert Chief of AFSO 21 office in Pentagon from USAFA for screwing up the place. "Brilliant" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C-21 Pilot Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 They throw out that weight and replace it with a few cases of Lohrer Urtyp 1878... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jimmy Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 This coming from the civilian world when I used to load freight and fly cargo on the right seat in Metro II's and III's Avionics for the most part... auto pilots, GPS. Our company figured we didn't need these "luxuries" especially on the Metros which fly several hour long flights such as from Lansing MI to some God-forsaken shithole in Wyoming. At least the Metros tend to stay trimmed pretty well which gives you quite a bit of hands-off flying in calm conditions. Probably gets a bit tiring day in day out. [ 02. February 2007, 11:50: Message edited by: Jimmy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crog Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 My copy of AFSO 21...... It landed next to my dusty copies of TQM, "Velocity Initiatives" and Mao's Little Red Book.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Mafia Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 I love Lohrer 1878. I have one left. Saving it for my birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Originally posted by C-21 Pilot: Lohrer Urtyp 1878... Droooooool. Greatest beer ever. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Yeah no shit. Anybody ever found a distributor in the US? Somebody's gotta sell it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Originally posted by Jumper Bones: Yeah no shit. Anybody ever found a distributor in the US? Somebody's gotta sell it... Yeah, they're called "Iron Swap." I'm taking orders for delivery mid to late Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Originally posted by B-O-double-Z: I've thrown out all additional crew members...no co-pilot, no navigator, no flight engineer.No way! What years did you work at Fairchild? You probably knew my grandpa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergman Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 What have I thrown out? Well, through the sextant port...toilet paper, bananas, twinkies, hard boiled eggs, water. Amusing when you're really bored and 6.9 hours away from the nearest landmass. We've gotten rid of all our convection ovens (broke over the years) and the Boeing bastards raised a stink over the microwaves being "unsafe for use" (after being used for 20+ years without incident). Conveniently, they will sell us a "Boeing certified microwave package" for $1million per jet. And I thought the Nordskog on the RC was expensive at $18,000/copy! I'm a tried-and-true herbivore and all, but a million per jet is f_cking insane. Guess I'll sick with box nasties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Originally posted by Bergman: Well, through the sextant port...toilet paper, bananas, twinkies, hard boiled eggs, water. Amusing when you're really bored and 6.9 hours away from the nearest landmass. There's nothing like hopping the pond with a ton of leftovers from the box nasties. Bananas probably still reign as the funniest. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainman A-10 Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Rip 6 MK-82s always helps lighten up the load a bit. I used to take a 10-15 lb growler before a BFM sortie for a little more nose authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Originally posted by TacAirCoug: Yeah, they're called "Iron Swap." I'm taking orders for delivery mid to late Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Fried Pork Rinds....through the sextant over muslim countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Originally posted by ClearedHot: Yeah, they're called "Iron Swap." I'm taking orders for delivery mid to late Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 The most I've brought back was 3 cases, and I definitely got a funny look from the dude from customs. He mumbled something about paying a duty or something like that...but never collected. So, are you flying on an all-Mormon crew or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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