DEVIL Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Don't sneeze sh*t on my ice cream bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) He has a point. You've got your head in the sand if you think your SR isn't going to glance at the educational history portion of your SURF for helping break the tie between two otherwise identical records during DP/P allocation. But hey, it's a start. Edited August 20, 2014 by Champ Kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craft Beer Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Sorry dude, cynical to say the least. I have seen the OSB for the next board, blank degree block and DE just says PDE complete. Unfortunately though as long as it is still accessible, it can still be used. The next board, the change is more symbolic then anything. The strats people received were influenced by the AAD. You can mask the degree but not the number in the OPR. Hopefully this change will help the '06 but more realistically the '07 and younger yr groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akele Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Everyone knows about the strat lists that the wings have....has anyone seen AAD and PME in-res/corr w/date complete removed from those sheets? That will tell you if this new mentality is truly happening. I know the one at my unit still has that info on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dupe Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Sorry dude, cynical to say the least. I have seen the OSB for the next board, blank degree block and DE just says PDE complete. Unfortunately though as long as it is still accessible, it can still be used. Are you suggesting that the promotion board should not see that an officer has accomplished rank-appropriate PME? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craft Beer Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Not at all Dupe. I was just stating what I have seen for OSBs and that they are in line with the guidance now released (the OSBs dropped a wek or two ago). With the practice bleeding being cut, just saying complete is a great step forward. If someone doesn't complete rank appropriate PME, that should be highlighted to the promo board. The real discriminator from the SURF for SRs will be the AAD since you can't practice bleed anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 "BLUF: To set clear expectations and restore Airman's time, the following changes are being implemented emphasizing job performance as the primary consideration when evaluating officers for promotion: A. AADs will not be expected until promotion to colonel for line of the Air Force officers. All data pertaining to AADs will be removed from all promotion-related documents prior to colonel. The promotion-related documents affected are: The Officer Pre-selection Brief (OPB); the Officer Selection Brief (OSB); and the Duty Qualification History Brief (DQHB). B. Method and timing of DE will be removed from all promotion-related documents (OPB, OSB, and DQHB). These documents will only highlight the level of DE, and the status will reflect that it has been "Completed," and for officers selected to attend DE in-residence, it will reflect "Select." The first promotion board to implement the new policy will be the Major's (LAF) Central Selection Board scheduled for Dec. 1." YAHTZEE! Does the method/timing for DE apply to all?? Including IDE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abmwaldo Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Plucking and Promotion: Military Talent Management Lessons from the Past Interesting historical perspective on the unending military promotion processes and reforms. The second lesson will be the one most likely missed due to attention spans that are measured in 140 characters and not years… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonedRiver Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 So does anyone know any twice passed over dudes who turned down continuation? I heard TERA was offered to those eligible who weren't offered continuation this year. How about those declining continuation? Is this a viable option to back-door TERA when it seems like the other opportunities to find something else to do are drying up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 I know of one person here who declined continuation and was offered TERA, so yes it is a possible "back door"...or at least it was. We will see if this continues. Posted from the NEW Baseops.net App! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Any '05 guys at Little Rock gotten their PRFs back yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach braff Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Not Little Rock but got mine back last week. The MLRs are all complete so they should all be done & signed. Senior Raters generally release them all at once and per instruction they're supposed to drop them about one month before the board - so if you don't have yours yet you'll probably have it by early next week at latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThatGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Anyone hear rumint that the 05 year group promotion rates maybe insane? I can only assume that's due to everyone jumping ship in our year group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 How much more "insane" can they get? The promotion rate to O-4 is already around 90%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was told when mine was handed back that the promotion rate was going to be 95% with a 75% DP rate. Sounds like '05 May be at the bottom of the RIF / force management bathtub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach braff Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was told when mine was handed back that the promotion rate was going to be 95% with a 75% DP rate. Sounds like '05 May be at the bottom of the RIF / force management bathtub. I got the same word on the 75% DP allocation from an A1 type. Didn't say anything about the 95% promotion rate but that would make sense with a DP rate that high - it's normally 65%ish right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discus Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I got the same word on the 75% DP allocation from an A1 type. Didn't say anything about the 95% promotion rate but that would make sense with a DP rate that high - it's normally 65%ish right? Yeah, I think so. I know this is the highest I have seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHAP Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 2004 year group was a 75% DP allocation. I actually thought 75% had been the standard the last few years but hopefully somebody that pays attention to that stuff and has been around longer can confirm or correct that for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muscle2002 Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 2004 year group was a 75% DP allocation. I actually thought 75% had been the standard the last few years but hopefully somebody that pays attention to that stuff and has been around longer can confirm or correct that for me. That's true at least dating back to the 2000 YG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ThatGuy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 I was told when mine was handed back that the promotion rate was going to be 95% with a 75% DP rate. Sounds like '05 May be at the bottom of the RIF / force management bathtub. Yeah, I heard 95% as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockheedFix Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well, there's no AAD info so the boards can't possibly be expected to be able to differentiate between records. Promotions for all my friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSCguy Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Well, there's no AAD info so the boards can't possibly be expected to be able to differentiate between records. Promotions for all my friends. The SOS box is still visible. If they can't find enough people without that box checked then the next step to look for passovers will be Xmas parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 It may be visible, but it only indicates complete or not. There is no differentiation between residence and correspondence, unless of course you got DG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backseatdriver Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 The SOS box is still visible. If they can't find enough people without that box checked then the next step to look for passovers will be Xmas parties. Jesus. We can even find a way to bitch about a 95% promotion rate here.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Jesus. We can even find a way to bitch about a 95% promotion rate here.... Are you kidding, we would bitch about 100% 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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