Guest sleepy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Originally posted by FallingOsh: If you see this chick with her tits hangin out, you will never take her seriously again. A TI that isn't taken seriously is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. Huh? Who said you have take a TI seriously? Stand there, yes ma'am, no ma'am, play the game and move on...big tits or not. Not posing nude for a national magazine in uniform: reasonable request That's the difference. Don't do anything that might be construed as a dumf-ck manuever while in uniform. Even though I agree with Bender and Rainmain that she's not that hot, it's too bad I'm on a stupid TDY...have to wait in order to see the spread. EDIT again: I just saw the Playboy photos. Maybe the mag is different, but she is not in any part of the uniform in any of them. Unless there is a section of mil clothing at the BX that I have not yet seen. [ 13. January 2007, 08:59: Message edited by: sleepy ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rotorhead Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 "...those gotta be fake..." If you can see it, and touch it, it's real. "I'm still trying to get my head around the impossibility of her waist-size to funbag-size ratio." Steve, you should have edited your post more carefully. The correct verbiage is: "I'm still trying to get my head BETWEEN the impossibility of her waist-size to funbag-size ratio." "...This chick isn't even that hot..." Okay, maybe she will not win Miss USA, BUT ON A RELATIVE SCALE: Compare her to other 30 year olds: pretty hot THEN Compare her to other 30 year olds with two kids: EVEN HOTTER THEN Compare her to other 30 year olds with two kids who are USAF NCOs: PRETTY DAMN HOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter14 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Sleepy, I think "in uniform" in this case means as a member of the Armed Forces, whether she's in her BDU's, or just a set of dog tags (haven't seen the spread yet). You know that whole "you're an officer/NCO/airman 24/7" kind of thing? Well, if it says you are a SSgt and a TI, or even if it doesn't, on Monday morning at 0730, the whole wing's gonna know about it. You might be able to "yes, ma'am, no ma'am" and play the game, but I guarantee there are plenty of brand new 17-18 year olds who will not be able to turn it on and turn it off, and that will lead to some major issues. Can you imagine one of them spouting off about the spread when they saw it at the Lackalnd BX or downtown at the riverwalk? After all the sexual harrasment training we've had? Well, SSgt Manhart can pose naked...it'd be a trainwreck. You know they are all going to be looking for the mag. If you knew someone from your organization posed nude for Playboy, you'd go looking for it, too. I heard a rumor once that someone had an amateur porn site. A buddy of mine told me at work. What was the first website that I checked out when I got home? I'll give you a hint, it wasn't baseops.net. I'm sorry, but in today's AF, if you don't think there can be some ramifications from this, you are a moron. This also throws the whole "good order and discipline" right out the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter14 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Originally posted by rotorhead: "...This chick isn't even that hot..." Okay, maybe she will not win Miss USA, BUT ON A RELATIVE SCALE: Compare her to other 30 year olds: pretty hot THEN Compare her to other 30 year olds with two kids: EVEN HOTTER THEN Compare her to other 30 year olds with two kids who are USAF NCOs: PRETTY DAMN HOT. 2 I stand by my assertion that she is in INCREDIBLE shape, especially for a 30 year old with two kids. Doesn't make it right, but that is also a fact. [ 13. January 2007, 09:17: Message edited by: Scooter14 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJDRVR Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 At least she didn't invent some kidnapping story to explain away her actions. She gets points for being proud of herself and up front, she loses those same points for low SA. I spent four years in a special duty assignment. You're held accountable 24/7 for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sleepy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Originally posted by Scooter14: Sleepy, I think "in uniform" in this case means as a member of the Armed Forces, whether she's in her BDU's, or just a set of dog tags (haven't seen the spread yet). You know that whole "you're an officer/NCO/airman 24/7" kind of thing? Semantics, but you're right on the services and the 24/7 thing. I thought everyone was getting all up in arms because she was halfway wearing her blues, etc., and I wanted to stir the pot. You might be able to "yes, ma'am, no ma'am" and play the game, but I guarantee there are plenty of brand new 17-18 year olds who will not be able to turn it on and turn it off, and that will lead to some major issues. Yeah, I forget what it was like to be seventeen sometimes. Other times I have to remind myself that I am not. If you knew someone from your organization posed nude for Playboy, you'd go looking for it, too. Maybe from your organization, but not mine! I'm sorry, but in today's AF, if you don't think there can be some ramifications from this, you are a moron. You're just now figuring that out? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcola Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Agreed with gearpig. At first I thought she should be given props for at least having the set to stand up for what she believes in. Even if it does make her dumb as hell. If more people would stand up rather than play the "company man" party line, maybe the airforce wouldn't be run by shoeclerks with less common sense than an angered mob. Then I realized that gearpig is right. Playboy wouldn't give this chick a second look of she wasn't in the military. Given the current political landscape and subsequent interest in the armed forces, they know that people would be interested in seeing this shoot. Without the Air Force title, she would have about a 0.01% shot at playboy. She played the cards she was dealt and I really doubt if she gives two shits about standing up for "my own rights and participate in the freedoms that make this country what it is?" Just one man's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewpey Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Originally posted by sleepy: I just saw the Playboy photos. Maybe the mag is different, but she is not in any part of the uniform in any of them. Unless there is a section of mil clothing at the BX that I have not yet seen. shes definately in uniform. they are definately fake. (should get a refund) and I definately have links. PM me do conduct your own "investigation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usaf36031 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Woof... -J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I'll agree that she's no ten. But still not bad for two kids. Scooter is right in that she had a complete lack of SA. It doesn't matter if she thinks she was right or wrong, what did she expect the AF to say about this....Good job? Way to go? Regardless, at 13 years and still and E-5, she probably wasn't going too far in the AF. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boom Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Most people who become T.I's weren't stellar troops to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandal Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Having just recieved my February copy, the spread isn't bad. (duh it's playboy) But there are pics of her in BDUs yelling at people then moves iinto the nude pics. I can now see how the AF would flip over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kayla Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Originally posted by dayswhore@ang.com: 13 years and she's still a staff? Pretty much not bright. Either that or she's been busted, either way, a waste. Good riddance. I'm on a AF spouse's site.. and that got brought up.. I want to say that the "moral" of that story was that some people dont want to test, don't want to get promoted.. Some just aren't test takers.. etc, the list goes on.. on a different forum(I'm on way too many)another wife said the same thing, and a guy, who went from E to O, put her in her place real fast.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Boom Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Originally posted by lcgsdmama: Some just aren't test takersThat's why the Air Force has the Stripes for Exceptional Performers (STEP) promotion. And she already fits most of the criteria (being a chick and having a huge rack). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Originally posted by lcgsdmama: on a different forum(I'm on way too many)another wife said the same thing, and a guy, who went from E to O, put her in her place real fast.. Was that guy named Todd?? Cheers! M2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paperpusher Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Sent out to commanders today...SAF/PA's explanation of SSgt yummy-pants' termination...indirectly of course. http://www.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070118-168.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paperpusher Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Oh yeah Bender...I almost forgot...click on the here and here and here hyperlinks. http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/air_force...investigates_p/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Here's to the best recruiter the AF had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-15E WSO Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Scrap the Thunderbirds and get a team of her and seven of her peers and put 'em on tour. You'll save millions and still recruit enough for mama blue. I'd like to be a crew chief on one of those sweet rides. AFSO 21 -- Go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DangerousLT Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Geez, they sure can do a lot with makeup and airbrushing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C-21 Pilot Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 She has bigger and better things in front (personal opportunity wise) of her than being a SSgt in the AF... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clayton Bigsby Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 okay, does anybody agree that for an AD member, and especially an MTI, that this might be the wrong (or at least not most professional) thing to do? I hate to toe the PC party line but it seems she's placing her desires and wants above her office. I mean listen to her interview - "I want, I want, I want..."..great role model for trainees when you're trying to cram core values BS down their throats. However, her office is probably what got her into Playboy in the first place... Bust her to SrA, and give her the boot for high-tenure (can't exceed 10 yrs of service as a SrA), like they did that tech school SSgt that unknowingly had sex with a student @ Sheppard...shiiit, that chick didn't even know what she was doing (thought she was hooking up with a guy at a bar), and SSgt Manhart definitely knew what she was up to. See ya! [ 22. January 2007, 11:48: Message edited by: Jumper Bones ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkDerka Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Originally posted by Jumper Bones: okay, does anybody agree that for an AD member, and especially an MTI, that this might be the wrong (or at least not most professional) thing to do? I don't really care about the example she set, yada, yada. What I do care about is that she's pulling a victim card for a situation that she put herself in. She repeatedly mentions her "rights" and has not once shown that she had any competent thought beforehand that the AF might not like her posing in playboy. Regardless, when you read her statements, you can tell where her priorities are. HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJDRVR Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Originally posted by Jumper Bones: Bust her to SrA, and give her the boot for high-tenure (can't exceed 10 yrs of service as a SrA), like they did that tech school SSgt that unknowingly had sex with a student @ Sheppard...shiiit, that chick didn't even know what she was doing (thought she was hooking up with a guy at a bar), and SSgt Manhart definitely knew what she was up to. See ya! Let me get this straight. You're comparing the crime of fraternization and violating several regulations with the act of posing nude? Off the top of my head, I can't think of any AFI or any portion of the UCMJ she's violated. Yet you want her prosecuted. Why is it enlisted members are repeatedly held to higher standards than the Officer Corps? They have no good-ol-boy network to protect them after minor transgressions. When major crimes are committed with the full knowledge of supervision, the higher ranking people are protected, simply because more money has been invested in them and nobody wants the Officer Corps to be tarnished. For instance, the ONLY people in the entire chain of command who were held accountable for the actions of the MP's at Abu Gharib were the idiots themselves. If an ugly SrA went to Bishkek, had an extramarital affair, went UA to procure an abortion then claimed she was kidnapped, the USAF machine would promptly denounce her and prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law. Make it an attractive O-4, and you have a different outcome. The SSgt in question action's are not compatible with Military Service or a Special Duty Assignment. She has my respect for pursuing her dream, but my guess is she'll shortly be allowed to separate honorably. There are a variety of ways end your service early. In the grand scheme of things, the method she chose is no big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Originally posted by LJDRVR: Blah blah blah...Make it an attractive O-4, and you have a different outcome. Dude Please tell me you are kidding. You consider this attractive?? Over this? Way to 'ITTUO' for the team! The USAF is going after Mantart 'cause she is an attention whore. Metzger is trying to slip away under the radar. Neither is worthy to be in the uniform (especially Manhart, much better out! :D ). By the way, here she is in uniform! My TI was 5-foot-nothing, 98 pounds with a cheesy mustache and mouse glasses, but he could out-yell a foghorn. to you, SSgt D. D. Rodgers, Flt 515, 3704 BMTS! Cheers! M2 [ 22. January 2007, 17:10: Message edited by: M2 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now