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43 minutes ago, FLEA said:

Fuck. If we could get the people we've still left in Afghanistan first, that would be great....

Legitimate question: how many people do “we” have left? US nationals?  Helped us? NGO personnel? 

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1 hour ago, Breckey said:

Legitimate question: how many people do “we” have left? US nationals?  Helped us? NGO personnel? 

Report came out last week that said we still had almost 100 US citizens who have not been contacted by DoS and have no way out. Theres also an estimated 1-3000 LPRs, and tens of thousands of SIV qualified individuals. (People who worked for the US government for significant periods) 

The SIVs will never get out which I think is sad. But the DoS refuses to even consider them. Their answer is that they need to wait for their visa or continue to submit paperwork for it. If you haven't seen how much paperwork the SIV requires it's pretty appalling. But it doesn't matter because there actually is no way to complete the visa since it requires an interview and we no longer have an embassy in Afghanistan. These people are pretty bitter right now because they feel betrayed. If you look at how the evac went down, we largely got out only people that were important to politicians and public figures who spent tons of money to hire fixers. 

 

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Report came out last week that said we still had almost 100 US citizens who have not been contacted by DoS and have no way out. Theres also an estimated 1-3000 LPRs, and tens of thousands of SIV qualified individuals. (People who worked for the US government for significant periods) 
The SIVs will never get out which I think is sad. But the DoS refuses to even consider them. Their answer is that they need to wait for their visa or continue to submit paperwork for it. If you haven't seen how much paperwork the SIV requires it's pretty appalling. But it doesn't matter because there actually is no way to complete the visa since it requires an interview and we no longer have an embassy in Afghanistan. These people are pretty bitter right now because they feel betrayed. If you look at how the evac went down, we largely got out only people that were important to politicians and public figures who spent tons of money to hire fixers. 
 
So basically we just made 1-3000 more AQ, ISIS-K, etc.
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2 hours ago, TheNewGazmo said:

So basically we just made 1-3000 more AQ, ISIS-K, etc.

 

What's another few thousand after we've created tens of thousands with the two decade quagmire that was our occupation of Afghanistan?   Fucked up all around. 

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The biggest consequence isn't creating new terrorist. It is the erosion of trust that if foreign citizens help us in another country they will be protected and taken care of. Any country we go to there is going to be a point where we need local assistance to continue operations and right now the US does not have a very good reputation to sway people to help us. 

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