Fuzz Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Whistle blowers go to their commanders, IGs, or congress people. Guys need to understand that going to the media undercuts the organization. My understanding is the 60 minutes piece was a result of him going to Congress, hence the reason the Congressman that's an Indiana Guard pilot appeared on the interview with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleRattle Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Neither of those dudes are heroes in the F-22 community. Can you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 *Thread Revival* *SIGH* - Good luck with the DoD IG Pilot's career stalls after criticizing oxygen system http://www.stripes.com/pilot-s-career-stalls-after-criticizing-oxygen-system-1.279043 Color me surprised! What status was this guy? TR/AGR/Tech? He was a guard guy, right? Who even looks at their OPRs? I guess some squadrons are more political than others... These guys were whistle blowers. While the heavies were playing politics with a jet they felt might kill them, this was their only way to bring it to light.Rather than wait, some have just decided to leave the community after their own experiences. Whistle blowers go to their commanders, IGs, or congress people.Guys need to understand that going to the media undercuts the organization. As FUZZ said, I think this was a result of going to congress. What do you think commanders and IG were going to do? We're talking about an AF that would rather piss on a pilots grave than say there is something wrong with their baby... Neither of those dudes are heroes in the F-22 community.Of course not...the AF prefers those who just tow the company line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachAT802 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Premiere tactician and wingman don't go together. meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitteEinBit Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Oh great...more OPR "code words" and people trying interpret the meaning. That is precisely what is wrong with the AF today. We get a bunch of O-6s on a board trying to decide what someone really meant by the phraseology they put in an OPR because apparently we don't put what we really mean in an OPR. If the guy is a dirtbag and his career should be ended, then just say so. What ends this guy's career won't be anything to do with what he did by talking to the media, but how poorly worded (intended or not) his OPR was written. I think with all the buffoonery going on with the AF today, the media issue won't hurt the guy...if anything, it will help him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Oh great...more OPR "code words" and people trying interpret the meaning. That is precisely what is wrong with the AF today. We get a bunch of O-6s on a board trying to decide what someone really meant by the phraseology they put in an OPR because apparently we don't put what we really mean in an OPR. If the guy is a dirtbag and his career should be ended, then just say so. What ends this guy's career won't be anything to do with what he did by talking to the media, but how poorly worded (intended or not) his OPR was written. I think with all the buffoonery going on with the AF today, the media issue won't hurt the guy...if anything, it will help him. This will never work, you may hurt someone's feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchbarnes Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Premiere tactician and wingman don't go together. meaningless. Neither does aviator and volunteer. His commander wrote that Wilson was "one of my top wingmen" and a "superb officer, aviator and volunteer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawnman Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So...didn't these guys talk to the press under the guise of talking to their congressman? Where is the congressman in this current mess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So...didn't these guys talk to the press under the guise of talking to their congressman? Where is the congressman in this current mess? You mean the same guy that voted to cut retirement? Probably not enough political points in helping this guy after the media has moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panchbarnes Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) JQPublic is all over this matter... Kinzinger Letter Alleges Pentagon Whistleblowers Being Punished http://www.mystateline.com/fulltext-news/d/story/kinzinger-letter-alleges-pentagon-whistleblowers-b/33596/26rwh7A7rEKtknRimA391w Edited May 1, 2014 by PanchBarnes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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