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https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/Volume_07b.pdf Another place to look is DODFMR. It has detailed explanations and examples.

https://militarypay.defense.gov/Pay/Retirement.aspx DFAS’ explanation.

https://www.myairforcebenefits.us.af.mil/custom/retirement/component? New Retirement calculator. CAC or DS logon, though.

Meh… AMC and AETC have made the boogey-man Q3 virtually meaningless on its face thru overuse.

Do you remember where you saw the memo? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

For years now (at least as far back as 2013) AU has been saying that points will only be awarded at the end of a program, and then posted retroactively according to the date you finished each individual course. Problem was that there was no mechanism to accomplish that. With the outsourcing to ASU they now have a mechanism it seems… I’ll post back if I ever see points, but I fear I’ve only wasted my time as it seems the only way to get the points is by finishing AWC and it’s highly doubtful I’ll do that.

I just did my first PME course since the switchover to ASU happened about a year ago. Anybody have experience with points posting to PCARS with ASU yet? Do the points show up with each course you do (ie no changes)? If the points don’t show up, what proof do you have to give the PCARS people since AUSIS is now shut out of the process?

We were talking about this 8 years ago. Bottom line: Yes, it is a thing for RegAF. https://www.flyingsquadron.com/forums/topic/19851-sanctuary/?tab=comments#comment-354790

PIRR is the points programs=Cat E=CAPRAP & ALO. What you’ll need is SELRES=Cat A&B. Cat A=DSG and TR. Cat B=IMA. I can suggest a Cat B (IMA) for reduced duty time compared to Cat A (TR or DSG). One such Cat B duty is SSS or selective service system liaison. If that isn’t available in your area, you could commute to any number of IMA jobs.

If you want to get out clean, fine. If you want to join ARC, that’s fine too, but my advice is to not let it be known that you (likely) caused your own non-selection. Just say you twice failed of selection for promotion (if asked), and leave it at that. No one really “knows” what goes on at a promotion board (except for board members), so you can honestly say that you don’t know why you were passed over. If you crow about (likely) causing your own non-selection, some individuals may have personal problems with that, such as “eff this guy for ‘gaming the system’. “

Another reason I just found out that you can't transfer your GI Bill in any event: The DOD changed the rule recently to say that if you have over 16 years of service you cannot initiate a transfer.

If you want to play it safe: join the ARC and then file with the VA. Make sure you have everything documented on your separation physical that you might have an inkling to claim. File your intent to claim with VA after your accession but definitely within 1 year of active duty discharge. This 1 yr timeframe preserves the presumption that whatever you claim is service-connected. Filing the intent to claim form buys you time to get your actual claim filed and then you’ll get backpay all the way back to the date of your intent to file form (you must make your claim within 1 yr of your intent to file form date). Doing it this way will avoid being rejected at accession on medical grounds. Of course, you’ll want to not claim anything that might be disqualifying for continued service/aviation service, if applicable.

Civil Air Patrol--Reserve Assistance Program/Personnel It's a reserve officer in the PIRR employed by CAP-USAF (a RegAF unit) for the purpose of oversight of CAP. You can earn points-only on IDTs and points & pay on MPA.

IDK if AU’s switch to ASU still means a CAC is required to do PME or not. Straight IRR does not get a CAC so historically that was a barrier. An additional barrier to doing straight IRR is ARPC policy that if you are retirement eligible, you will be allowed to stay in IRR for a max of 365 days, at which point they’ll transfer you to RetRsv.

Impossible to do straight IRR in the USAFR and do PME. (One exception may be if you’re in sanctuary and your SELRES unit closes and there’s none within commuting distance). If you want to do points, You’ll need to join a PIRR program at a minimum. Two programs are available to line of the AF guys: CAP-RAP and ALO (admissions liaison officer). If you’re looking to serve out a GI Bill xfer ADSC, though, PIRR doesn’t count. It has to be RegAF or SELRES or ANG.

Mansplain: you see, Gertrude, there are some carriers that are so “ate up” that they cannot tolerate the slightest of what may appear, on the surface, to be an error. They therefore extend, on occasion, a modicum of grace to the hapless applicant in the form of what may be colloquially referred to in the lower lexicon as a fix it. You’re welcome.

The normal process is that you will meet a board prior to 7 yrs TIG to enable you to pin on at 7 yrs TIG. You’ll need to download the PDSM from Mypers on recent boards and infer from that what board you will meet as there are cut off dates for various items.

Found this in the leave reg: 6.10.2.4. Members transferring to the AFR cannot carryover leave from the RegAF, (except for members transferring into the AGR program with no break in service to include PALACE CHASE/PALACE FRONT), ANG or other services. Members must settle all leave accounts prior to transferring. (T-1) I will say, though, that when I transferred from ANG to IRR I had 0.5 days that they did carry-over. Getting paid for that 0.5 days after transferring took about 1 year bc ARPC (SELRES pay guys) acted like they had never encountered an ANG ADOS order before. Then DFAS acted like they had never seen such a thing before. If I had known I would have been sure to cash it out before leaving ANG.

If palace front or chase the regs changed a few years back to allow leave carry over from reg to ARC, but I wouldn’t count on AD finance processes to be aware of this.

Years of service don’t apply to a reserve retirement. Points are the only thing that matter. Years of service will be the top of the pay chart because your clock keeps running for pay chart purposes while in the grey area. Rank matters more for a reserve retirement than an active duty retirement bc the rank you take into the retired reserve is the rank that you will be paid at. As an example: I need 3 yrs TIG as an O-5 to retire as an O-5. If I fail to get 3 yrs TIG while actively serving (ie before I transfer to the retired reserve aka grey area) then I will retire as an O-4 and my high-36 will be the top of the O-4 payscale. If I do get 3 yrs TIG, I will retire as an O-5 and my high-36 will be the top of the O-5 payscale. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No it takes 35 points to apply. 65 points to actually retire at 20 yrs bc they won’t publish the order until you have 50 points in your 20th year (not including the 15 membership points ghat you get at the end of your 20th year). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Update: Now ARPC is telling him that while he was able to request retirement once getting 35 points, they will not publish the retirement order until he gets 50 points, excluding his (eventually awarded) membership points. So as it stands: to voluntarily retire right at 20 years it takes 65 points.

Another way of looking at this: bottom line is difference in retirement pay. O-4 with 5000 points = $2976/mo or $35.7k per yr O-5 with 5083 points = $3570/mo or $42.8k per yr For a difference of $7.1k per yr (starting at ~age 60) is it worth your time to do ACSC?

Extremely common misunderstanding. Initial ADSC is the first ADSC you pick up: the commissioning ADSC. After that there may be other restrictions in the palace chase AFI, but 2/3 of 5 or 4 is the first hurdle. Next hurdle would be getting hired when you’re so young in your pilot career (maybe).

You can req the waiver as part of your retirement req. AFPC policy is to only approve ICW a force drawdown program, but you never know. But to respond to the AFR/ANG billet suggestion: non-active duty time does not count towards a regular retirement TIG requirement. IOW to regular retire as an O-5 requires 3 yrs TIG all on active duty. Is it doable in the ARC? Yes, but it might take awhile to cobble together a bunch of orders (or not, if you deploy), and IMO not worth the hassle when the high-36 for the situation is hardly different and the only effect is having O-4 on your retired ID card. I suppose if you were recalled you’d compete for promotion again, but this shouldn’t be a consideration.