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At Little Rick FSDO the guy allowed 1 or 2 specific days per mo where he would do these types of services, by appointment only, so if that matches up with your schedule you can save a few bucks. But he was unfamiliar with a wide variety of things such as the aforementioned IP check=CFII, refused to do NVG endorsement bc of unfamiliarity, window for CFI renewal while keeping your same exp mo, and others. Except for NVG he was able to be persuaded, but this comes down to the individual bureaucrat you deal with. I used him for CFI renewal 4 times, back when I was renewing based on recurrent mil IP check rides.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/08/14/arizona-cardinals-kyler-murray-sports-bra-training-camp-nfl/ More like a training bra at sports camp

ARPC says exactly 3 yrs TIG as an O-5 in a participating status (not simply on the RASL bc they want to specifically exclude IRR time) to hold that in the retired reserve, ie (365.25*3) days. So six months prior to achieving that you can apply for transfer to RetRsv. I don’t know if or how good years enter into the equation and ARPC itself doesn’t know or won’t say. It is my opinion that the safest thing is to get at least 50 pts per R/R year while trying to get TIG. And then if you’re past 20 good yrs and it’s your final R/R yr then a prorated partial good year (if you are looking to retire immediately after attaining 3 yrs TIG). You’re correct that once you have TIG it is only a points game. Or you might make O-6, then need 3 yrs TIG for that, then it again becomes only a points game. You’ll max out the pay chart in terms of years bc gray area time counts as TIS (for pay chart purposes only).

My feeling is that nowadays no waivers are entertained at any level bc they gotta pump those numbers up. However, it doesn’t hurt to ask with a good story!

Your best bet is to discuss with the POC (there’s a GS at AFPC who handles these boards). I say that bc it’s unclear verbiage, ie it can be read 2 ways. I’d hate for you to go down a path only to find out you were never eligible in the first place due to a misunderstanding.

If what you’re saying is correct, then you’d still be a current officer and thus ineligible. If this recruiter is trying to get you enlisted in the reserve, you’d still be a former officer. Going back to your initial question, “can a reserve officer apply to a RegAF UPT board?” IDK, but since you say current and former officers need not apply, it seems you have your answer.

That would be an unnecessary step, IMO. Here’s what I would attempt to do: get a conditional release via DD368 from your present service’s IRR. When you receive it back, then start the RegAF accession process. This way you’re now eligible bc your losing service has granted permission.

You’d need to initiate conditional release from your service’s IRR, contingent on commissioning into Air Force Reserve (which requires scrolling). Before starting this process, though, you’d need to get a promise of hire by a Reserve squadron, which at the front end is the same process as an off the street hire, assuming you were not a rated pilot in your previous service. AFAIK: IST applies only to regular to regular moves, otherwise it’s conditional release for reserve to reserve; but whatever they want to do to get the process done doesn’t need to concern you as long as you don’t have a break in service if at all possible.

Where’s my damned violin?!

Other thing about going for O-6. First you need to compete, then get on the list, then pin-on, then in 3 yrs you can retire (if you’re looking to get the biggest high-36). Total evolution: 4-5 yrs.

When a Regular Retiree retires again from ARC, his regular retirement pay will be recomputed to add all credits from ARC service.

Probably not. They’ll claim you were never in the IRR since you didn’t get a reserve commission. So I’d proceed as if you’re being accessed as a civilian, unless you want to try to get ARPC to acknowledge that you should have been in the IRR and then place you there, but I’ll say it will be a long time (or maybe never) before you’ll see a resolution.

He shouldn’t have a break if AFPC/ARPC did it right. It should have been RegAF to IRR directly. But historically they do not do it right. If he finds that they gave him a break during that time he was in the IRR he would have a good BCMR case, I’d think.

You’d do a conditional release DD Form 368 with the ARPC general as the releasing authority on the USAFR side. Call ARPC to get the process going. It’s supposed to work like this: you fill out the form as much as you can with your recruiter’s help, general signs the release and sends it back to you. Once your NG unit commissions you, have their HR fill out rest of form and send it with the documents proving your commissioning (orders, oath form, etc) to ARPC. ARPC will then backdate a discharge from USAFR the day prior to your Army commission. This will prevent a break in service.

Back to the IRR subject: frequently it happens that a regular officer will leave RegAF and due to whatever reason owes time in the IRR or is otherwise placed in the IRR. Unless the officer takes positive action to obtain a reserve commission (ie meet with a recruiter and get scrolled) he won’t have a commission. (So how can he be an officer?!) ARPC will have this former officer meet promotion boards until he’s twice passed over and then kick him out of the reserve. If he obtains a reserve commission prior to this eventuality, ARPC will then give him a break in service acting as if he was never in the IRR until he received his reserve commission! They’re talking out of both sides of their mouth on this one and as usual are very confused.

Yeah that’s bad gouge. I second what Scooter said.

1 calendar day not in a component. As an aside and contrary to law, ARPC maintains that an “officer’s” membership in IRR is without component unless you possess a reserve commission. A break in service does the following: 1. Makes you ineligible to meet a promotion board until you have 365 days continuous service 2. Adjusts, by the number of days’ break, your DOR, pay date, R/R date, TFCSD, TYSD, Aviation service date (although this is additionally adjusted for however long you’re not in an aviation status). 3. Causes you to have a partial yr and thus partial membership points 4. Can cause, if you’re not careful, a bad year, which can lead to a situation where you may not be able to get into sanctuary before you’re kicked out for a 2nd passover. Beyond those reasons, a break in service just causes your timeline to stretch out—effectively pausing time spent in service.

In this case you will receive a regular retirement as an O-5 (plus the points you received as a DSG when you re-retire from the guard). At age 60 (or RRPA) you may apply for a reserve retirement as an O-6. https://www.jbsa.mil/News/News/Article/2223797/converting-active-duty-retirement-to-afr-ang-retirement/

The hits just keep on coming, though! I just found out that DFAS computes reserve retirement pay only on whole months, so unless you can increase your point total to the next 30 day increment, those 29 points are wasted effort! From DOD FMR Vol 7B, Chapter 1 (they speak of points as days): 4.7 Age and Service Retirement – Non-Regular Total days of service, divided by 360 equals equivalent years and any fraction of a year of service. Note: Under 10 U.S.C. § 1401, before applying percentage factor, each full month of service that is in addition to the number of full years of service is creditable as one-twelfth of a year. The remaining fractional parts of a month are disregarded. Example: I'm projected to have 5141 points or 14.28 years, but the fraction of a month is dropped, so rounding down to the whole month =14.25 yrs (14 yrs, 3 months)=5130 points.

Well I thought I had seen the TIG change for reserve majors in 10 USC 1370A, and now I can't find it. So it may be possible that Congress only changed the TIG requirement for Regular Majors. I'll consider this one to be undetermined unless someone can post up the law change specific to Reserve Majors for us.

I went back to my job during leave accrued from ADOS. Some rando at my Reserve sq was trying to tell me that leave had to end in the local area. I disagreed and disregarded bc it is a defacto terminal leave, something full-timers who have never been part-timers are apparently unable to grasp.

The AFI you quoted is not up to speed with law yet, so it should say “grade higher than O-3.” The key verbiage in the AFI is “or during creditable service for AFR members retiring under 10 USC § 12731.” Creditable service as interpreted by ARPC: participating status and all good years for 3 yrs TIG or if over 20 good yrs and retiring on a partial year, a pro-rated good year. Main thing is 3 yrs TIG must be 3 whole years from effective date of rank that are good or pro-rated good AND in a participating status. The relevant law is 10 USC 1370A, not to be confused with 1370(a).

It used to be in the lodging reg, along with other standards such as air conditioning, which I used to justify getting off-base lodging due to “adverse effects”, back when I did aircrew TDYs.

SocialD: I ran a simulation using historical pay charts for 2 guys who make O-6 in the reserve. Assumptions to simplify: both entered service & commissioned 1 Jan 1985, birthday 1 Jan, age at commissioning 23, served continuously, did not have a RRPA so started drawing retired pay at age 60. The first guy does his 3 yrs TIG as an O-6 and holds O-6 when he transfers to the Retired Reserve at age 46, Jan 2008, with 23 years of "active service". His high-36 is O-6 at >34 yrs for 2019, 2020, 2021: $11901, $12270, $12638=$12269. The 2nd guy does not do 3 yrs TIG as an O-6, but does only 1 yr as an O-6, and transfers to the Retired Reserve as an O-5 at age 44, Jan 2006, with 21 years of "active service". That one year he did as an O-6 in 2005 was $7763. His high-36 is O-5 at >34 years for 2019, 2020, 2021: $9521, $9816, $10111= $9816. As you can see, due to inflation of the pay charts, that one year he did as an O-6 way back in 2005 has no bearing on the high-36 calculation.

I attached additional info from DFAS that I downloaded a while ago DFAS_retirement_explanation.pdf