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ah, he’s mad. What’s the bullshit again? What exactly do I not have knowledge of? Be specific. Let’s get back to the thing that you keep dancing around. What have we accomplished strategically? Multiple propagandists on this site stated this all was worth it to stop Iran from getting a nuke. Womp womp, well that talking point seems a bit dumb. Don’t they have the exact same amount of nuclear material, a more hardline government, a distrust of the US, and now understand that they can control the Straits of Hormuz anytime they want with shitty drones they can make themselves? On top of that, I predict that this deal terms will give them a disgusting amount of reparations that you all will cheer for like lemmings.

Are strikes on water reservoirs good? Just happened btw. How about desalination plants? I appreciate that you guys are doubling down on the “targets have always been military things” line.

Estimates, depending on source, put the proportion of civcas at 15-20% of total dead, at a minimum, with some sources estimating 50%. MilitarySpend.orgIran War Casualties 2026: US, Iran & Civilian Death Toll...2026 Iran war casualties tracker: 8,351–17,685 total killed across all sides. US 13–15 KIA, Iran 1,800–7,650 military KIA, civilian casualties across Iran, Israel, Lebanon and Gulf states, plus US equ

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Because war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

The central question was never whether Iran was a challenging environment. Nor was it whether Iran posed a serious threat, had the potential for nuclear weapons if they put their minds to it, fired ballistic missiles, or occasionally conducted special operations that targeted western citizens. All of that is true. The question was whether those conditions compelled the methods chosen — or whether they were invoked to justify choices that were poorly aligned with the United States’ own stated objectives.” He (smartly) doesn’t mention the clear “unstated” objective: to distract from other political difficulties that were becoming unmanageable. Once evaluated by that criteria suddenly everything starts to make perfect sense.

Interesting how your takeaway point here is that “I could see the democrats abusing this” as opposed to “I see active abuse occurring right now in only one party that I do or do not agree with.” Making invalid hypothetical comparisons is a fallacy.

Someone writing something you don’t like doesn’t make it propaganda. Someone writing something anti administration doesn’t make it propaganda. Nor does it make it morally wrong. As Teddy Roosevelt said, Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. You probably are also initially upset that the NYT has correctly ID’d Chinese perceptions that the US are making poor strategic choices. Like expending half of our cruise missile inventory. archive.isChina Sees a ‘Giant With a Limp’ as U.S. Drains Weapons o...I’d reassess. It is a fact that the American people - who live in a democratic republic - deserve to know what their country is doing and have a right to impact that course. As a reminder, the Iran war is at a -20 point net favorability in this country. It is not the duty of the media to propagandize every state action and return favorability. That’s what happens in North Korea and Iran. I’d also reflect and realize that you have no counters at all to the factuality of the articles. You just attack that they exist - precisely because you can’t point out how they are wrong. It is the mark of someone who does not have a valid counter argument to devolve to calling something they don’t like propaganda. War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, eh?

And just to be clear, I believe that all gerrymandering is bad, but cherry picking what we call bad and ignoring it where it is beneficial is literally just more gerrymandering. Either get rid of district maps being drawn by election commissions and just split the US into amorphous blobs fairly distributed mathematically. Or just go by popular vote. If New England is 40% republican, give them 40% of the seats. Give Texas 40% dem seats. Give California 40% republican seats. Sounds good to me and much more fair than what happens now. On top of that, give third parties a chance to gain representation.

Do you actually think Black Rights are not a political ideology by definition? A political ideology is not just Democratic and Republican. You not agreeing with that as an ideology or wanting to not over represent it is a different argument, but there’s no question that in 1965 and now, it’s a legitimate political sect. Just like white rights/supremacists.

Ratner hyperventilating at his computer and retreating back to projection or Ad Hominem when he doesn’t have an argument, a tale as old as time.

Is your argument really that “racial gerrymandering is bad, but the partisan gerrymandering is different”? Because that’s what loudly complaining about democratic gerrymandering without expressing the whole picture is. Also wtf is “partisan” gerrymandering? Turns out both disenfranchise voters. To take your example to completion. Louisiana is choosing (not forced) to stop an ACTIVE election to redraw their maps in a way that will ultimately be gerrymandered more towards an already nationally biased republican advantage. Confirm that this makes sense to your principles? And to all points on New England, Texas has more registered democrats than Republicans and depending on year has 42-46% of the state vote dem for president. They are redrawing the maps to go to about 5 dems of 38 total reps.

Yet actual analysis plainly contradicts you and shows that gerrymandering unfairly supports republicans, not the other way around. To a net of 16-19 seats in the house. What you’re doing is called cherry picking data. But I get it, sources on a lot of these feelings are hard to find. Brennan Center for JusticeGerrymandering and the 2024 ElectionIn most of the United States, politicians have drawn voting maps designed to keep their party in power.Center for American ProgressThe Impact of Partisan GerrymanderingNew CAP analysis finds that the impacts of partisan gerrymandering are comparable to switching the majority of votes in 22 states.

If you’re gonna use AI, at least remove the Em-Dashes 😂 Have the robots taken over the old guy accounts?

Literal definition of irony.

This is your guys’ actual problem. It’s legitimate delusion. And you project it on others. You say they’re the delusional ones so you don’t have to embrace the reality you are supporting right now explicitly. But this quote right here describes your and many others “delusional syndrome.” You have to understand we aren’t even that mad at the president. Politicians do politician things. But it is your choice to determine if you have any specific morality in how you interpret those actions. Im disappointed in people like you simplifying complex arguments and everything into us vs them. And the ends justify any means is the antithesis of Christianity.

John 10:33

You’ve said this a lot now, I think you think you’re on to something. Unfortunately you’re not. What was total inflation? Estimated at about 20%. Sounds bad. But how much did the stock market go up under Biden? Oh. 40-55%, depending on index. Shit. Wages rose 19-20%, which resulted in them staying about stagnant in real terms. Home prices rose 20-35% as well, so most gained at historical rates. Ironically, Biden was probably great for moderate to high income people like those on here. Those that didn’t gain bigly are those that don’t have investments. Edit: and of course, inflation corresponds with a reduction in the true value of debt such as the national debt. J pow was how we recovered from COVID like ballers. I agree that later stimuli were bad policy, but they were mitigated by great Fed policy.

Brabdawg in the hizzouse! The conventional military might of Iran for the last four decades - besides a few days of this conflict - has been countered by a couple formations of fighters, a few patriots, and the iron dome. I bet you’d argue the Houthis are a regional power because they can launch ballistic missiles. Also are you a cool guy with a security clearance 😎?

For a previous O-6, you still don’t understand DIME. Destroying a power militarily that was never a military power does not achieve strategic goals. They are an emboldened economic power and that’s it.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7.amp So we won, right? Just have to negotiate around this concept that: Explicitly allows Iranian enrichment Explicitly gives Iran control of the Strait Removes US military from Middle East Lifting of all sanctions Even Fox is struggling on how to spin this. But we all know they’ll find a way, and the 30% will be happy.

Do you seriously think it would have been worse? Serious question.

What you don’t seem to get - and most don’t - Iran is not a military power. It hasn’t been a military power. It’s not an air power. It’s not a naval power. It basically has no way to project real power outside its borders. It’s not doing it now, really, it hasn’t don’t it effectively before. It hasn’t been a military power for many decades. Iran is an economic power. It is a huge oil and LNG supplier. And it now has realized just how much economic power it has via control of a strait that they weren’t really sure they could control - but now they know damn well they can just load up on quadcopters and remote control jet skis the next time there is a cease fire to be adequately able to control the world economy again. You don’t control economic power with military power. You must use diplomacy and influence. Your stated goals cannot happen with the military, because even if we nuke Tehran, a few dudes can throw some mines in an area that demands international cooperation to be a real place to go and entirely negate any military victory. Your desires aren’t achievable in the way you imagine them. And if we agree to a peace plan in which they turn the Strait of Hormuz into another Panama Canal, Iran has the negotiating room of a superpower.

Called it!